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From: Kurt R. Todoroff on 23 Jul 2010 13:13 In article <lloydparsons-59F135.09480023072010(a)port80.individual.net>, Lloyd Parsons <lloydparsons(a)mac.com> wrote: > In article <kurt.r.todoroff-AE9EC3.09391623072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, > "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > In article <vilain-4CC216.18454722072010(a)news.individual.net>, > > Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > > > > In article <kurt.r.todoroff-443F3C.16334822072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, > > > "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > > > I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 > > > > iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files > > > > (mostly > > > > settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and > > > > even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. > > > > > > > > I want to install all of my third party applications from the original > > > > installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and > > > > iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my > > > > Address > > > > Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to > > > > transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to > > > > the > > > > new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, > > > > but > > > > it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the > > > > Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced > > > > difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard > > > > Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of > > > > my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up > > > > with: > > > > <snip> > > > > I searched through the ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail folder last night > > and I performed some testing. I learned the following: > > > > I removed the "Mailboxes" folder from the aforementioned directory > > location while Mail was not running. Then I launched Mail. Everything > > appeared to look and operate properly except that Mail did not display > > all of my mailboxes. I expected this. I quit Mail. I moved the > > "Mailboxes" folder back into the aforementioned directory. Then I > > launched Mail. Everything appeared to look and operate properly, and > > Mail did display all of my mailboxes and their proper contents. > > > > I have decided to do the following when I purchase the new iMac. I will > > install Leopard over Tiger on the old iMac external Firewire 1TB backup > > hard drive. I will reboot the old iMac from this backup drive. I will > > turn on MobileMe syncing of my "Mail Accounts" and my "Mail Rules, > > Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" and then perform a manual sync. Then, > > on the new iMac, I will turn on MobileMe syncing of my "Mail Accounts" > > and my "Mail Rules, Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" and then perform a > > manual sync. Then I will copy ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail/Mailboxes > > from the old iMac to the new iMac. > > > > Can anyone see any holes in the plan? > > > > Thank you. I remembered that I have my own user account on my father's iMac Intel C2D running Snow Leopard. So, I used my account on his machine to run an experiment. I copied the files from my old iMac Tiger to his iMac Snow Leopard. I launched Mail. There they were! All of my mailboxes and years of old emails! (Yes, I do clean out my mailboxes every couple of months.) I tried to use MobileMe to sync my old Mail accounts (Tiger) to Mail on SL. They didn't appear in Mail. However, all of my "Mail Rules, Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" did appear in in SL Mail. I still want to install Leopard over Tiger on my old iMac and then try to sync my Mail accounts to my user account on my father's iMac. If my Mail accounts appear on his machine, then I'm golden. I'll try to update this thread for those who are interested. Thank you to all, except for the troll, who assisted me. -- Kurt Todoroff Markets, not mandates and mob rule. Consent, not coercion.
From: John Varela on 23 Jul 2010 18:02 On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 06:13:22 UTC, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article > <krishna-278E6B.22010422072010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, > krishnananda <krishna(a)divine-life.in.invalid> wrote: > > > In article <kurt.r.todoroff-443F3C.16334822072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, > > "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 > > > iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files (mostly > > > settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and > > > even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. > > > > > > I want to install all of my third party applications from the original > > > installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and > > > iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my Address > > > Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to > > > transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to the > > > new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, but > > > it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the > > > Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced > > > difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard > > > Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of > > > my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up > > > with: > > > > On the new mac, fire up Mail.app, go to "File > Import Mailboxes..." > > > > Check the "Mail for Mac OS X" radio button and go to it. > > > > The rest: above my pay grade. Why don't you just clone the old disk and > > attach the clone to the new machine & use Migration Assistance. Your > > method seems overly complicated... > > Did you miss where he said "I want to avoid using MA" because he's heard > that people have had problems using it to transfer mail data from Tiger > to Snow Leopard? I agree with krishnananda that he's making life unnecessarily complicated for himself. The first thing he should do is make sure that he has two or three good backups of everything. Then go ahead and run Migration Assistant. If everything works on the new machine then wonderful! He's done. If not then he can erase Mail -- or the whole SL installation, if he wants to -- from the new machine and try his alternative procedures. Migration Assistant works well for most people. Why assume it will fail instead of at least giving it a try? -- John Varela
From: Kurt R. Todoroff on 23 Jul 2010 21:01
In article <vilain-B23E5F.10291623072010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: <snip> > > I remembered that I have my own user account on my father's iMac Intel > > C2D running Snow Leopard. So, I used my account on his machine to run > > an experiment. > > > > I copied the files from my old iMac Tiger to his iMac Snow Leopard. I > > launched Mail. There they were! All of my mailboxes and years of old > > emails! (Yes, I do clean out my mailboxes every couple of months.) I > > tried to use MobileMe to sync my old Mail accounts (Tiger) to Mail on > > SL. They didn't appear in Mail. However, all of my "Mail Rules, > > Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" did appear in in SL Mail. > > > > I still want to install Leopard over Tiger on my old iMac and then try > > to sync my Mail accounts to my user account on my father's iMac. If my > > Mail accounts appear on his machine, then I'm golden. > > > > I'll try to update this thread for those who are interested. > > > > Thank you to all, except for the troll, who assisted me. > > IIRC, your old iMac won't run Leopard (800MHz G4, no?). So migrating to > Leopard isn't really an option for you. If you manage to use various > hacks to fool the installation disk, great. But it might just be easier > to make a bullet-proof backup or two and take them over to your new iMac > and recreate the environment by hand. That way you'll know what comes > over and what doesn't. > > But you seem fixated on doing whatever you want regardless of the advise > you get here, so I'm sure we'll hear from you on the success or utter > FAIL of your efforts. Mission accomplished! I tried another experiment a few minutes ago. I copied the file "com.apple.mail.plist" from the Tiger iMac to my user account on my father's Snow Leopard iMac. Then I launched Mail on the SL iMac. Mail displayed all twenty-five Mail accounts. (Six POP and nineteen IMAP.) I can send and receive using them. When I purchased my new iMac, I will: 1: Sync all of my "Mail Rules, Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" by using MobileMe. 2: Copy the file "com.apple.mail.plist" from the Tiger iMac to the SL iMac. This will create all of my Mail accounts. 3: Copy ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail/Mailboxes from the Tiger iMac to the SL iMac. By the way, Michael. The iMac G4 800 MHz will run Leopard. The installer will not recognize it as a supported Mac. "Various hacks" are unnecessary to install Leopard on this machine. I will connect the external Firewire 1TB backup hard drive to a friend's G5 Mac laptop, run the install disk on this drive, then reconnect this drive to my iMac G4 and boot from it. Pretty simple. Don't have to hack the firmware or the installer. "Fixated", "utter FAIL"? Come now. Be nice, Michael. -- Kurt Todoroff Markets, not mandates and mob rule. Consent, not coercion. |