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From: Kurt R. Todoroff on 22 Jul 2010 16:33 I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files (mostly settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. I want to install all of my third party applications from the original installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my Address Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to the new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, but it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up with: Currently, I boot my iMac G4 from an external Firewire 1TB hard drive. Every day at 0045, SuperDuper! performs a full backup of this drive to another external Firewire 1TB hard drive. I have a licensed copy of Snow Leopard that my brother gave to me, not knowing that it does not support the G4 processor. If I disconnect the backup drive from my iMac G4 and then connect it to the new iMac Intel, will the SL installation disk install SL on this drive? I have read that the SL installer will only install on GUID disks. Obviously, this disk is APM. Is what I read correct? If this is not correct, then I want to boot from this external SL drive, and then transfer my mail accounts and save mail to MobileMe. Then, I will reboot from the internal hard drive, disconnect the external hard drive, and they sync my computer's mail accounts and save mail to MobileMe. Alternatively, can I connect the external Firewire 1TB hard drive to the new iMac, format it using GUID, then reconnect it to the Tiger iMac, perform a full SuperDuper! backup to it, then reconnect it to the new iMac and then install SL on it, and then sync via MobileMe? If I could borrow a Leopard installation disk, then I could install Leopard on the external backup drive, and the I could copy the Mail folder from ~Users/Myaccount/Library on this hard drive to ~Users/Myaccount/Library on the new iMac internal hard drive. Once this is complete, I would reconnect the backup drive to the Tiger iMac. The day at 0045 SuperDuper! would clone the boot drive to the backup drive, thus removing any vestiges of Leopard from that drive. Reinstalling all of my third party applications will be simple because I have very few of them. Syncing most of my AB/iCal/Safari data via MobileMe will be a snap. I've done this previously. The main roadblock is Mail. Any suggestions? -- Kurt Todoroff Markets, not mandates and mob rule. Consent, not coercion.
From: Barry Margolin on 23 Jul 2010 02:13 In article <krishna-278E6B.22010422072010(a)62-183-169-81.bb.dnainternet.fi>, krishnananda <krishna(a)divine-life.in.invalid> wrote: > In article <kurt.r.todoroff-443F3C.16334822072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, > "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 > > iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files (mostly > > settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and > > even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. > > > > I want to install all of my third party applications from the original > > installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and > > iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my Address > > Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to > > transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to the > > new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, but > > it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the > > Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced > > difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard > > Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of > > my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up > > with: > > On the new mac, fire up Mail.app, go to "File > Import Mailboxes..." > > Check the "Mail for Mac OS X" radio button and go to it. > > The rest: above my pay grade. Why don't you just clone the old disk and > attach the clone to the new machine & use Migration Assistance. Your > method seems overly complicated... Did you miss where he said "I want to avoid using MA" because he's heard that people have had problems using it to transfer mail data from Tiger to Snow Leopard? -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: Kurt R. Todoroff on 23 Jul 2010 09:39 In article <vilain-4CC216.18454722072010(a)news.individual.net>, Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > In article <kurt.r.todoroff-443F3C.16334822072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, > "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 > > iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files (mostly > > settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and > > even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. > > > > I want to install all of my third party applications from the original > > installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and > > iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my Address > > Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to > > transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to the > > new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, but > > it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the > > Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced > > difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard > > Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of > > my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up > > with: <snip> I searched through the ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail folder last night and I performed some testing. I learned the following: I removed the "Mailboxes" folder from the aforementioned directory location while Mail was not running. Then I launched Mail. Everything appeared to look and operate properly except that Mail did not display all of my mailboxes. I expected this. I quit Mail. I moved the "Mailboxes" folder back into the aforementioned directory. Then I launched Mail. Everything appeared to look and operate properly, and Mail did display all of my mailboxes and their proper contents. I have decided to do the following when I purchase the new iMac. I will install Leopard over Tiger on the old iMac external Firewire 1TB backup hard drive. I will reboot the old iMac from this backup drive. I will turn on MobileMe syncing of my "Mail Accounts" and my "Mail Rules, Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" and then perform a manual sync. Then, on the new iMac, I will turn on MobileMe syncing of my "Mail Accounts" and my "Mail Rules, Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" and then perform a manual sync. Then I will copy ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail/Mailboxes from the old iMac to the new iMac. Can anyone see any holes in the plan? Thank you. -- Kurt Todoroff Markets, not mandates and mob rule. Consent, not coercion.
From: XX on 23 Jul 2010 10:15 "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:kurt.r.todoroff-443F3C.16334822072010(a)nntp.aioe.org... >I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 > iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files (mostly > settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and > even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. > > I want to install all of my third party applications from the original > installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and > iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my Address > Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to > transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to the > new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, but > it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the > Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced > difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard > Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of > my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up > with: > > Currently, I boot my iMac G4 from an external Firewire 1TB hard drive. > Every day at 0045, SuperDuper! performs a full backup of this drive to > another external Firewire 1TB hard drive. I have a licensed copy of > Snow Leopard that my brother gave to me, not knowing that it does not > support the G4 processor. If I disconnect the backup drive from my iMac > G4 and then connect it to the new iMac Intel, will the SL installation > disk install SL on this drive? I have read that the SL installer will > only install on GUID disks. Obviously, this disk is APM. Is what I > read correct? > > If this is not correct, then I want to boot from this external SL drive, > and then transfer my mail accounts and save mail to MobileMe. Then, I > will reboot from the internal hard drive, disconnect the external hard > drive, and they sync my computer's mail accounts and save mail to > MobileMe. > > Alternatively, can I connect the external Firewire 1TB hard drive to the > new iMac, format it using GUID, then reconnect it to the Tiger iMac, > perform a full SuperDuper! backup to it, then reconnect it to the new > iMac and then install SL on it, and then sync via MobileMe? > > If I could borrow a Leopard installation disk, then I could install > Leopard on the external backup drive, and the I could copy the Mail > folder from ~Users/Myaccount/Library on this hard drive to > ~Users/Myaccount/Library on the new iMac internal hard drive. Once this > is complete, I would reconnect the backup drive to the Tiger iMac. The > day at 0045 SuperDuper! would clone the boot drive to the backup drive, > thus removing any vestiges of Leopard from that drive. > > Reinstalling all of my third party applications will be simple because I > have very few of them. Syncing most of my AB/iCal/Safari data via > MobileMe will be a snap. I've done this previously. The main roadblock > is Mail. > > Any suggestions? How do you people put up with this? This is like the "Dark Ages" of computing.
From: Lloyd Parsons on 23 Jul 2010 10:48
In article <kurt.r.todoroff-AE9EC3.09391623072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > In article <vilain-4CC216.18454722072010(a)news.individual.net>, > Michael Vilain <vilain(a)NOspamcop.net> wrote: > > > In article <kurt.r.todoroff-443F3C.16334822072010(a)nntp.aioe.org>, > > "Kurt R. Todoroff" <kurt.r.todoroff(a)comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > I anticipate purchasing an iMac in the fall. I am using an early 2002 > > > iMac G4 800MHz 15-inch running 10.4.11. It has old legacy files (mostly > > > settings and unused fonts) on it that date back to PPC/MacOS 8.6 and > > > even 68030/MacOS 6.0.3. > > > > > > I want to install all of my third party applications from the original > > > installation disks on to the new iMac. I will recreate my iTunes and > > > iPhoto configurations manually as well. I will easily update my Address > > > Book, iCal, Safari bookmark data via my MobileMe account. I want to > > > transfer all of my mail accounts and saved mail from the old iMac to the > > > new iMac. I have read that MobileMe does not support this on Tiger, but > > > it does on Leopard and Snow Leopard. I have read that, despite the > > > Migration Assistant's good reputation, many persons have experienced > > > difficulty transferring their mail from a Tiger Mac to a Snow Leopard > > > Mac when using it. I want to avoid using MA to effect the transfer of > > > my Mail data from the old Mac to the new Mac. Here is what I came up > > > with: > > <snip> > > I searched through the ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail folder last night > and I performed some testing. I learned the following: > > I removed the "Mailboxes" folder from the aforementioned directory > location while Mail was not running. Then I launched Mail. Everything > appeared to look and operate properly except that Mail did not display > all of my mailboxes. I expected this. I quit Mail. I moved the > "Mailboxes" folder back into the aforementioned directory. Then I > launched Mail. Everything appeared to look and operate properly, and > Mail did display all of my mailboxes and their proper contents. > > I have decided to do the following when I purchase the new iMac. I will > install Leopard over Tiger on the old iMac external Firewire 1TB backup > hard drive. I will reboot the old iMac from this backup drive. I will > turn on MobileMe syncing of my "Mail Accounts" and my "Mail Rules, > Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" and then perform a manual sync. Then, > on the new iMac, I will turn on MobileMe syncing of my "Mail Accounts" > and my "Mail Rules, Signatures, and Smart Mailboxes" and then perform a > manual sync. Then I will copy ~Users/Myccount/Library/Mail/Mailboxes > from the old iMac to the new iMac. > > Can anyone see any holes in the plan? > > Thank you. Good backups in the plan are definitely a plus. It has been awhile since I've done a new install and mine have usually just been one version upgrades and some new box installs. I use TimeMachine all the time and used it to do the last one. All my mail and other accounts were there at the end. In your case, if you install Leopard over Tiger on a clone backup, boot from that drive when done and you might find it all there and ready to go. -- Lloyd |