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From: William Poaster on 2 Jun 2010 18:12 Robert Nichols wrote: > On 06/01/2010 03:01 PM, RayLopez99 wrote: >> >> OK, yet another distro though--do I keep trying them all until one >> works? And do they all fit on 2GB FlashRAM stick (see my reply to AZ >> Nomad)? Do I just buy a external DVD for this cheap machine (which >> costs about 33% of the total price of $300!)? Probably I will buy a >> DVD, so I can install N versions of Linux--but which one first? I'm >> not going to make a hobby installing Linux distros--not my thing. > > Many distros have a "Live CD" which you can put on a USB flash stick > and try out without having to go through an install. It'll run > somewhat slowly (booting will be _really_ slow), but you can quickly > find out whether your hardware is supported. I know Fedora, CentOS, > and Ubuntu all have live CDs available. (In the case of Ubuntu, it's > the regular install CD, which has an option to try out without > installing.) > > BTW, that 7-year support for RHEL and CentOS is from when the base > release, in this case "5", became available. CentOS 5 was released > in 2007, and support for all CentOS 5.x is scheduled to end on > 31 Mar 2014. Still a lot better than Fedora, where each release > has support for at most 18 months (technically, until one month > after version N+2 is released, and new releases can come as fast > as 6 months apart). YHBT: RayLopez99 is a known anti-Linux troll. -- FreeBSD 8.0 64-bit Kubuntu 10.04 64-bit Mandriva 2010 64-bit
From: Stefan Patric on 2 Jun 2010 23:20 On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:54:01 +0000, General Schvantzkoph wrote: > On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 21:13:53 +0000, Stefan Patric wrote: > > Stefan, > > It's time to stop humoring Ray. You've been on this newsgroup long > enough to recognize this particular troll. Ray's been posting the same > basic thread for years, the sad thing is that we keep falling for it. > There seems to be some form of mutual insanity among the regulars on > this newsgroup that allows us to let Ray repeatedly lead us down the > same rabbit hole. I'm one of the chief offenders here but looking at the > other names on this thread I see several other long time contributors to > c.o.l.m who should know better. I'm a kind, tolerant, understanding S.O.B. Also, too curious to see where the thread will lead to stop. ;-) Stef
From: Aragorn on 3 Jun 2010 00:06 On Thursday 03 June 2010 00:12 in comp.os.linux.misc, somebody identifying as William Poaster wrote... > Robert Nichols wrote: > >> On 06/01/2010 03:01 PM, RayLopez99 wrote: >>> >>> OK, yet another distro though--do I keep trying them all until one >>> works? And do they all fit on 2GB FlashRAM stick (see my reply to >>> AZ Nomad)? Do I just buy a external DVD for this cheap machine >>> (which costs about 33% of the total price of $300!)? Probably I >>> will buy a DVD, so I can install N versions of Linux--but which one >>> first? I'm not going to make a hobby installing Linux distros--not >>> my thing. >> >> Many distros have a "Live CD" which you can put on a USB flash stick >> and try out without having to go through an install. It'll run >> somewhat slowly (booting will be _really_ slow), but you can quickly >> find out whether your hardware is supported. I know Fedora, CentOS, >> and Ubuntu all have live CDs available. (In the case of Ubuntu, it's >> the regular install CD, which has an option to try out without >> installing.) >> >> BTW, that 7-year support for RHEL and CentOS is from when the base >> release, in this case "5", became available. CentOS 5 was released >> in 2007, and support for all CentOS 5.x is scheduled to end on >> 31 Mar 2014. Still a lot better than Fedora, where each release >> has support for at most 18 months (technically, until one month >> after version N+2 is released, and new releases can come as fast >> as 6 months apart). > > YHBT: RayLopez99 is a known anti-Linux troll. And after the good example set by General Schvantzkopf, Ray Lopez has now joined the other trolls in my bit bucket as well. I am well reputed for my patience, but I've really had it with this guy. As a GNU/Linux and FOSS advocate, I don't mind setting a Windows advocate straight on their misconceptions - on the contrary, an honest dialog is the only way to break through the prejudices - but a genuine and honest Windows advocate would then either continue the debate in a serene way by trying to refute my arguments with what he or she construes as perfect logic and technical argumentation. It would be a real debate. Ray Lopez is not a Windows advocate. He's simply a Windroid[1] troll who asks nonsensical off-topic questions which are padded from top to bottom with anti-GNU/Linux drivel and contempt for the very people he seeks advice from, and he has already admitted to that. No valid arguments will hold with Ray Lopez and his ilk, because they don't even read them. After all, doing so would deprive them of their reason to come here and troll the group with flamebait and insult. It is not my habit to insult people, but let's face it, Ray Lopez is a bully and a loser who's got nothing else to do with his time than waste ours. [1] By his own admission, he has no understanding of operating system technology or networking and internet connections, and he considers someone a power-user if they do a lot of work in Microsoft Office. This is akin to a kindergarten toddler considering someone a quantum physicist because they can count to five on one hand. Nobody can be expected to know everything, and not every person has the same intellectual capacities as another person, but stupidity itself is a choice, not a natural property of one's brain, and as Albert Einstein once said, "If you cannot explain a complex subject onto a layman in simple terms, then you have not understood the subject yourself." I firmly believe that with the proper explanation, a sufficient dose of patience and possibly a bit of handholding - there's no shame in that - everyone can be taught almost everything. Everyone, except those who deliberately choose to remain ignorant. *That* is what stupidity really is: the deliberate choice to remain ignorant so as to be able to use that as an excuse to be allowed to continue one's venture along the wrong path. Ray Lopez is stupid and malevolent, and any good advice given to him is wasted, like pearls before the swine. And that's an insult to the swine. Cheers, my friend. ;-) -- *Aragorn* (registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
From: Keith Keller on 3 Jun 2010 01:21 On 2010-06-03, Aragorn <aragorn(a)chatfactory.invalid> wrote: > > And after the good example set by General Schvantzkopf, Ray Lopez has > now joined the other trolls in my bit bucket as well. I am well > reputed for my patience, but I've really had it with this guy. > > As a GNU/Linux and FOSS advocate, I don't mind setting a Windows > advocate straight on their misconceptions - on the contrary, an honest > dialog is the only way to break through the prejudices - but a genuine > and honest Windows advocate would then either continue the debate in a > serene way by trying to refute my arguments with what he or she > construes as perfect logic and technical argumentation. It would be a > real debate. > > Ray Lopez is not a Windows advocate. He's simply a Windroid[1] troll > who asks nonsensical off-topic questions which are padded from top to > bottom with anti-GNU/Linux drivel and contempt for the very people he > seeks advice from, and he has already admitted to that. No valid > arguments will hold with Ray Lopez and his ilk, because they don't even > read them. After all, doing so would deprive them of their reason to > come here and troll the group with flamebait and insult. > > It is not my habit to insult people, but let's face it, Ray Lopez is a > bully and a loser who's got nothing else to do with his time than waste > ours. > > > [1] By his own admission, he has no understanding of operating system > technology or networking and internet connections, and he considers > someone a power-user if they do a lot of work in Microsoft Office. > This is akin to a kindergarten toddler considering someone a quantum > physicist because they can count to five on one hand. > > Nobody can be expected to know everything, and not every person has the > same intellectual capacities as another person, but stupidity itself is > a choice, not a natural property of one's brain, and as Albert Einstein > once said, "If you cannot explain a complex subject onto a layman in > simple terms, then you have not understood the subject yourself." > > I firmly believe that with the proper explanation, a sufficient dose of > patience and possibly a bit of handholding - there's no shame in that - > everyone can be taught almost everything. Everyone, except those who > deliberately choose to remain ignorant. *That* is what stupidity > really is: the deliberate choice to remain ignorant so as to be able to > use that as an excuse to be allowed to continue one's venture along the > wrong path. > > Ray Lopez is stupid and malevolent, and any good advice given to him is > wasted, like pearls before the swine. And that's an insult to the > swine. > > Cheers, my friend. ;-) 50 lines: longest *plonk* in history! ;-) ObPedant: true trolls are not deliberately choosing to remain ignorant. True trolls are deliberately choosing to *appear* ignorant, in order to elicit more responses. In this way the best trolls are usually quite smart, at least in being able to compose responses that continue to catch fish. So ''Ray'' may or may not be stupid. He is clearly malevolent, another key characteristic of a true troll. I know, there's not much difference when the troll/idiot ends up plonking the bottom of your killfile one way or the other. --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information
From: Bill_h on 3 Jun 2010 08:18
On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 12:06:44 -0700, Keith Keller wrote: > ["Followup-To:" header set to comp.os.linux.misc.] > > On 2010-06-02, General Schvantzkoph <schvantzkoph(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 02 Jun 2010 05:12:16 -0700, RayLopez99 wrote: >> >> I've had it with you Ray. You go down this same path every six months >> and you've been doing it for years. > > He does it because people keep responding. > > --keith I'm amazed only at how many fall for the troll, and as you say, keep responding. Bill |