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From: rick_s on 3 Jun 2010 14:34 In article <77830c83-75ea-469e-ae89-770fad9d7939(a)k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, huangxienchen(a)yahoo.com says... > > > >> ---------------------- >> Mr genius >> can a single photon interfere with itself >> as QM claim � ?? >> >> TIA >> Y.Porat >> ------------------------- > > >Yes, experiments have shown that a single photon will interfere with >itself. A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. In fact experiments ever done, have shown that E=mc2 where E is kinetic energy, andothger term for momentum type of energy. Physical force. Not electricity. rolling eyes.
From: Inertial on 3 Jun 2010 23:02 "rick_s" <me(a)my.com> wrote in message news:pDZNn.90985$rE4.80918(a)newsfe15.iad... > In article > <77830c83-75ea-469e-ae89-770fad9d7939(a)k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, > huangxienchen(a)yahoo.com says... >> >> >> >>> ---------------------- >>> Mr genius >>> can a single photon interfere with itself >>> as QM claim ?? >>> >>> TIA >>> Y.Porat >>> ------------------------- >> >> >>Yes, experiments have shown that a single photon will interfere with >>itself. > > > > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. Except a photon is a quantum .. you can't split it into two. Calling a photon a particle is misleading. Calling it a wave is misleading. It has some particle-like and wave-like properties/behaviours. Trying to visualise things in the quantum microcosm in terms of our everyday experience is almost always misleading, if not plain wrong.
From: Y.Porat on 4 Jun 2010 02:14 On Jun 3, 8:34 pm, rick_s <m...(a)my.com> wrote: > In article > <77830c83-75ea-469e-ae89-770fad9d7...(a)k31g2000vbu.googlegroups.com>, > huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com says... > > > > >> ---------------------- > >> Mr genius > >> can a single photon interfere with itself > >> as QM claim ?? > > >> TIA > >> Y.Porat > >> ------------------------- > > >Yes, experiments have shown that a single photon will interfere with > >itself. > > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. -------------- while you say to cut it in half you are only hardly on the right way!! there is another truth about it that even you still didnt get !!! E=hf is not the right definition of the *real single photon* it is just a human arbitrary definition !! nature doe snot know what is that 'one second' of yours that defines f !!!........ see my thread 'a better new new definition of the real single photon energy' ATB Y.Porat ----------------------- ATB Y.Porat ----------------------------------- > > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. > In fact experiments ever done, have shown that E=mc2 where E is kinetic > energy, andothger term for momentum type of energy. Physical force. > Not electricity. rolling eyes.
From: Sam Wormley on 4 Jun 2010 11:02 On 6/3/10 1:34 PM, rick_s wrote: > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. > > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. These are misunderstandings on your part, rick_s. Background on the Photon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photon#Physical_properties
From: Benj on 4 Jun 2010 15:29
On Jun 3, 2:34 pm, rick_s <m...(a)my.com> wrote: > >Yes, experiments have shown that a single photon will interfere with > >itself. Single slit diffraction. duh. > A photon is not a little piece of dust. It is a wave packet. It has some > length to it. It is a wave. A short wave. So? Cut it in half and you have > two waves. Make a small enough effect and it will interfere with itself. Yes, only it doesn't happen, or at least nobody has seen it happen. The problem is that nobody knows exactly WHAT a "photon" is. A "wave packet" is a neat theory only it doesn't work. Because the energy of a photon is known. It is known that this determines a wavelength. And the physical extent of a photon is known. It is also known they don't split in two. And it is known that they transfer energy much too fast to have wavelengths compatible with the two slit patterns. Hence even if a photon is a "wave packet" it still only goes through one slit at a time. It still does not have enough physical extent to "sense" the second slit. It's wavelength must be so short (due to energy transfer and size measurements) that it cannot be the source of either single or double slit diffraction patterns! If it interferes with itself it must do so well outside the parameters of light diffraction patterns! > People are sure stuck on this notion that matter is like little pieces of > rock. It has never ever been shown to exist in that way. > In fact experiments ever done, have shown that E=mc2 where E is kinetic > energy, another term for momentum type of energy. Physical force. > Not electricity. rolling eyes. Well we know photons are little pieces of SOMETHING. They travel through empty vacuum so that with no medium waves cannot transmit energy. Hence either the MEDIUM isn't being recognized or the photons are matter that can travel without a medium! As Maxwell noted, there aren't any other choices! All else is hand-waving. |