From: Michael Black on
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Douglas Mayne wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:32:00 -0400, Michael Black wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Manuel Rodriguez wrote:
>>
>>> I run Ubuntu 7.10 on a 100 MB RAM Laptop very fine. But the new Ubuntu
>>> 9.10 doesn't work (perhaps to less RAM on startup). But i need an
>>> uptodate Linux for driver reasons, e.g. Wifi USB Stick, UMTS stick and
>>> so on.
>>>
>>> My question is: which Linux distribution should I use for my 100 MB RAM
>>> laptop (instead of Ubuntu)? I need one with a precompiled kernel for
>>> lowram systems.
>>>
>> Even a decade ago, there was a problem for some distributions because of
>> the installer. The problem wasn't that the linux distribution wouldn't
>> run in low RAM, but that the installer wouldn't. At that point, some
>> often had a less bulky installer. I suspect that may be the real issue
>> here, Ubuntu so well known for being a distribution for the masses is
>> less likely to have a smaller installer. Or a secondary explanation is
>> that it only allows one type of install, and that will require a certain
>> amount of RAM, so the installer folds if it can't fine enough.
>>
>> Slackware has the same sort of installer it's always had, and isn't
>> likely to choke on a "mere" 100megs of RAM. And unlike the slicker
>> distributions, you have lots of control over what gets used, so you can
>> turn off daemons and servers you don't need, choose a smaller GUI, and
>> all that.
>>
>> Someone posted about the usual roundup of limited distributions, but
>> Slackware (and I'm sure some of the other distributions similarly still
>> allow selective install and good control over it all) lets you run with
>> a current kernel and such, yet get it working with a small amount of
>> RAM.
>>
>> Michael
>>
> Just to clarify, have you tried running the install for Slackware 13.0 on
> a system with about 100M RAM? I see that this page
> http://www.slackware.com/install/sysreq.php
>
> asserts that the minimum requirement is 64M.
>
> I am certain it will run (including the installer) with 128M RAM, but am
> a bit sketchy on whether the installer itself works with less than that.
> Otherwise, I agree with your post and am interested in your response.
>
No, I haven't. But I certainly wanted to point out where the problem may
lie, and that the limited distributions aren't necessarily the right
choice.

Michael
From: Douglas Mayne on
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:33:31 -0400, Michael Black wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Douglas Mayne wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:32:00 -0400, Michael Black wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Manuel Rodriguez wrote:
>>>
>>>> I run Ubuntu 7.10 on a 100 MB RAM Laptop very fine. But the new
>>>> Ubuntu 9.10 doesn't work (perhaps to less RAM on startup). But i need
>>>> an uptodate Linux for driver reasons, e.g. Wifi USB Stick, UMTS stick
>>>> and so on.
>>>>
>>>> My question is: which Linux distribution should I use for my 100 MB
>>>> RAM laptop (instead of Ubuntu)? I need one with a precompiled kernel
>>>> for lowram systems.
>>>>
>>> Even a decade ago, there was a problem for some distributions because
>>> of the installer. The problem wasn't that the linux distribution
>>> wouldn't run in low RAM, but that the installer wouldn't. At that
>>> point, some often had a less bulky installer. I suspect that may be
>>> the real issue here, Ubuntu so well known for being a distribution for
>>> the masses is less likely to have a smaller installer. Or a secondary
>>> explanation is that it only allows one type of install, and that will
>>> require a certain amount of RAM, so the installer folds if it can't
>>> fine enough.
>>>
>>> Slackware has the same sort of installer it's always had, and isn't
>>> likely to choke on a "mere" 100megs of RAM. And unlike the slicker
>>> distributions, you have lots of control over what gets used, so you
>>> can turn off daemons and servers you don't need, choose a smaller GUI,
>>> and all that.
>>>
>>> Someone posted about the usual roundup of limited distributions, but
>>> Slackware (and I'm sure some of the other distributions similarly
>>> still allow selective install and good control over it all) lets you
>>> run with a current kernel and such, yet get it working with a small
>>> amount of RAM.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
>> Just to clarify, have you tried running the install for Slackware 13.0
>> on a system with about 100M RAM? I see that this page
>> http://www.slackware.com/install/sysreq.php
>>
>> asserts that the minimum requirement is 64M.
>>
>> I am certain it will run (including the installer) with 128M RAM, but
>> am a bit sketchy on whether the installer itself works with less than
>> that. Otherwise, I agree with your post and am interested in your
>> response.
>>
> No, I haven't. But I certainly wanted to point out where the problem
> may lie, and that the limited distributions aren't necessarily the right
> choice.
>
Ok, thanks. I can do some more checking on my own.

Ok, testing is complete. I have just tested that Slackware 13.0 will
setup and boot on a machine with only 64M RAM. Thus, I have seen for
myself that the stated minimum system requirements (as previously
mentioned) are correct. Therefore, the OP should seriously consider
trying Slackware, with version 13.0 highly recommended. A machine with
100M RAM is within the spec.

--
Douglas Mayne