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From: Perverse 19 mathermatics on 29 Mar 2010 23:55 I like turtles.
From: What you are reading is Philosophy and P Versus NP. on 30 Mar 2010 05:26 On Mar 29, 7:04 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > On Mar 29, 9:47 pm, "What you are reading is Philosophy and P Versus > > > > > > NP." <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Mar 29, 6:08 pm, "Sue..." <suzysewns...(a)yahoo.com.au> wrote: > > > > On Mar 29, 5:35 pm, "What you are reading is Philosophy and P Versus > > > > NP." <marty.musa...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Our units of temporal measurement, from seconds on up to months, are > > > > so complicated, assymetrical and disjunctive so as to make coherent > > > > mental reckoning in time all but impossible. Indeed, had some > > > > tyrannical God contrived to enslave our minds to time, to > > > > make it all but impossible for us to escape subjection to sodden > > > > routines and unpleasant surprises, he could hardly have done > > > > better than handing down our present system. It is like a set of > > > > surfaces, like a language in which the simplest thought demands > > > > ornate constructions, useless particles and lengthy circumlocutions.. > > > > Unlike the more successful patterns of language > > > > and science, which enable us to face experience boldly or at least > > > > level-headedly, our system of temporal calculation silently and > > > > persistently encourages our terror of time. > > > > What wonderful words! It is so much more liberating > > > than narrow confining expressions like: > > > > "invariance with respect to time translation gives > > > the well-known law of conservation of energy"http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noether%27s_theorem#Applications > > > > Could I get you to write a few more lines of prose > > > and mail it to me along with your petrol charge card. > > > Sue, > > > You are so kind, it seems. Yes, if you meant what you said re: me > > writing you some more lines of prose and mailing it to you, just send > > me the address, I have the stamp! No, re: the petrol card (though I > > need) I certainly do not expect it! (your words smile this day!) > > You are good sport as we make our point that time is > more tangible than some conclude from casual musing. > > Awe :-( Ya can't part with your petrol card? > > How about a compromise? I will > give your writing some free TIME on my printer and > you can use your stamp to send a cheque to > this address: > > http://www.redcross.org/ > > Kind regards > > Sue... > > > > > > > Martin > I don't know what a 'petrol' card really is -- is I had one I'd send it to you! I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, by all means, please send me a 'petrol card', are you British or European? I imagine it just makes good sense, there, anywhere really with the energy chrisis and economy being what it may. I take you at your word! (I even found the TIME to write out the check! http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4046/4475290669_50e9c3a895.jpg Peace to you, Martin > > > Then I would feel wholly and completely liberated from > > > the shackles of time and you will forever be my > > > spiritual guiding light. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Sue...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: Zerkon on 30 Mar 2010 08:04
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:35:42 -0700, What you are reading is Philosophy and P Versus NP. wrote: > Our units of temporal measurement, from seconds on up to months, are so > complicated, assymetrical and disjunctive so as to make coherent mental > reckoning in time all but impossible. Indeed, had some tyrannical God > contrived to enslave our minds to time, to make it all but impossible > for us to escape subjection to sodden routines and unpleasant surprises, > he could hardly have done better than handing down our present system. > It is like a set of surfaces, like a language in which the simplest > thought demands ornate constructions, useless particles and lengthy > circumlocutions. Unlike the more successful patterns of language and > science, which enable us to face experience boldly or at least > level-headedly, our system of temporal calculation silently and > persistently encourages our terror of time. It seems there might be confusion between "Our units of temporal measurement" with what is being measured. What can be clearer than our measurements? Determine whole then use numbers to divide this into equal parts and Bob's your uncle. The fact this simple scheme is not entirely accurate is of little concern. We can just 'leap' to whatever number seems best. Perfect. Thankfully there are simple minded people, such as myself, that might help out here. We see 'time' as the smart guys word for 'change'. So, your idea is about the "Terror of Change". Since change, in itself, is a neutral process with no innate value other then that of existence, any value place upon it is a refection/projection of a specific perspective, like a vanity mirror. When you say "for us to escape subjection to sodden routines and unpleasant surprises" you are overgeneralizing (ie: 'us') what seems to be a more personal condition which will time with change like everything else. |