Using Linux to Disinfect Windows
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From: za kAT on 22 May 2010 11:28 On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:33:58 -0300, Shadow wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:43:05 +0100, za kAT > <zakAT(a)super-secret-IPaddress.invalid> wrote: > >>On Sat, 22 May 2010 04:28:13 +0200, Blitz The Dog wrote: >> >>> Shadow <Sh(a)dow> wrote: >>> >>>>>Blitz The Dog <i.eat.kATs(a)anytime.82.5.94.219> >>>>>You do take backup images regularly. Right? >>>> >>>> >>>> When I'm using windows, every 5 minutes. The most I lose is 5 >>>>minutes work !!!! >>>> I follow the "bear-windows-maintenance-tutorial" >>>> []'s >>>> AFK - backing up my windows system just in case this message >>>>is corrupted by a virus. >>> >>> A very wise man. >>> Disk imaging is the way to go and it's getting better every day. >> >>You still keep spewing the same old half truths, and ill informed >>generalisations. >> >>Relying on just one backup system, especially imaging, is plain stupid. > I'm not stupid. I don't rely on any automatic system (might > get corrupted by virus). I do a MANUAL backup to a hard drive, remove > it physically , and THEN ---- bear-windows-backup-stage2 ---- I do an > image to DVD. > That's why I was AFK above, running a CRC test on my system > file-backup, and comparing the fingerprints to my image.Takes a while. > Sorry I took so long to respond, I was reinstalling windows. > The CRC's didn't match. Fourth time this week. > []'s Stupid is as stupid does and your a "does". -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - www.zakATsKopterChat.com
From: Blitz The Dog on 22 May 2010 13:34 Craig writ: >>>> Blitz The Dog<i.eat.k...(a)anytime.82.5.94.219> >>>> You do take backup images regularly. Right? >>> >>> >>> When I'm using windows, every 5 minutes. The most I lose is 5 >>> minutes work !!!! >>> I follow the "bear-windows-maintenance-tutorial" >>> []'s >>> AFK - backing up my windows system just in case this message >>> is corrupted by a virus. >> >> >> A very wise man. >> Disk imaging is the way to go and it's getting better every day. >And as long as you're supporting only your boxen, it's reasonable. That makes very little difference as all methods require effort by an individual. In this case, it turns on what backup procedure is safer to recover from a "Windows malware infection". A Linux rescue CD is not the best way as it cannot guarantee a pure recovery, as the article clearly admits, whereas restoring from an image *will* ...and it usually takes far less time. That is not to say that using a Linux CD is always useless, just when a Windows system file has been infected or in some cases deleted or if the Registry has been fucked with, by the malware. These are all quite common consequences of malware. In these cases, a Linux CD will not help you. HTH -Blitz The Dog-
From: M.L. on 22 May 2010 17:40 >That makes very little difference as all methods require effort by an >individual. In this case, it turns on what backup procedure is safer to >recover from a "Windows malware infection". A Linux rescue CD is not >the best way as it cannot guarantee a pure recovery, as the article >clearly admits, whereas restoring from an image *will* ...and it usually >takes far less time. > >That is not to say that using a Linux CD is always useless, just when >a Windows system file has been infected or in some cases deleted or >if the Registry has been fucked with, by the malware. These are all >quite common consequences of malware. In these cases, a Linux CD will >not help you. Linux antimalware Live CDs can be useful for putting your Windows system in good enough shape to allow Windows to finish the sanitization process with its own antimalware software. I never expect Linux to do the sanitization alone.
From: za kAT on 22 May 2010 17:47 On Sat, 22 May 2010 11:28:59 -0400, za kAT wrote: > On Sat, 22 May 2010 08:33:58 -0300, Shadow wrote: > >> On Sat, 22 May 2010 10:43:05 +0100, za kAT >> <zakAT(a)super-secret-IPaddress.invalid> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 22 May 2010 04:28:13 +0200, Blitz The Dog wrote: >>> >>>> Shadow <Sh(a)dow> wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Blitz The Dog <i.eat.kATs(a)anytime.82.5.94.219> >>>>>>You do take backup images regularly. Right? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> When I'm using windows, every 5 minutes. The most I lose is 5 >>>>>minutes work !!!! >>>>> I follow the "bear-windows-maintenance-tutorial" >>>>> []'s >>>>> AFK - backing up my windows system just in case this message >>>>>is corrupted by a virus. >>>> >>>> A very wise man. >>>> Disk imaging is the way to go and it's getting better every day. >>> >>>You still keep spewing the same old half truths, and ill informed >>>generalisations. >>> >>>Relying on just one backup system, especially imaging, is plain stupid. >> I'm not stupid. I don't rely on any automatic system (might >> get corrupted by virus). I do a MANUAL backup to a hard drive, remove >> it physically , and THEN ---- bear-windows-backup-stage2 ---- I do an >> image to DVD. >> That's why I was AFK above, running a CRC test on my system >> file-backup, and comparing the fingerprints to my image.Takes a while. >> Sorry I took so long to respond, I was reinstalling windows. >> The CRC's didn't match. Fourth time this week. >> []'s > > Stupid is as stupid does and your a "does". Please sort the grammar out. It's a dead giveaway. -- zakAT(a)pooh.the.cat - Sergeant Tech-Com, DN38416. Assigned to protect you. You've been targeted for denigration!
From: Blitz The Dog on 22 May 2010 20:12
M.L. wrote: >"Linux antimalware Live CDs can be useful for putting your Windows >system in good enough shape to allow Windows to finish the >sanitization process with its own antimalware software. I never expect >Linux to do the sanitization alone." > If malware corrupts a Windows system file or replaces it with its own version or deletes it, or screws the registry, I doubt if any "Linux antimalware Live CD" can fix that with certainty. As I said before, such CDs have their uses but the best and safest recovery regime is to restore from a known good partition image. This is why imaging s/w is booming... I have no knowledge of Windows "antimalware software". I thought Windows WAS malware in itself ;-) -Blitz The Dog- |