From: isw on
In article <C751B545.4DDAD%nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com>,
Nick Naym <nicknaym@[remove_this].gmail.com> wrote:

> In article 181220091422276843%nospam(a)nospam.invalid, nospam at
> nospam(a)nospam.invalid wrote on 12/18/09 2:22 PM:
>
> > In article <isw-AC315E.10332418122009@[216.168.3.50]>, isw
> > <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Not with Time Machine, but with "backuplist+", which does them once a
> >> week.
> >>
> >> Pros/cons?
> >
> > maybe for a few files, but when i think of backups, i think of where to
> > put several hundred gigabytes.
>
>
> I wonder why no one has addressed this. And if one is only talking about a
> handful of files (especially infrequently), what's the advantage of using
> "backup" software over simply drag-and-dropping copies?

It's on the Mac of a barely-capable user who works with critical
(financial) data (she understands the finances; just not the computer),
and so absolutely cannot be trusted to do any backing up in a reliable
fashion. The backup app launches at login, and runs continuously, waking
up once a week to copy the folders I told it to copy.

To be clear, her method for dealing with technology is just like her
method for dealing with children: shake a finger and sternly say "you'd
better not do that!"

Which, of course, works just as well for one as for the other.

Isaac
From: isw on
In article <tph-C2EC62.17585518122009(a)localhost>,
Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> In article <isw-AC315E.10332418122009@[216.168.3.50]>,
> isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:
>
> > Not with Time Machine, but with "backuplist+", which does them once a
> > week.
> >
> > Pros/cons?
>
> Others have discussed the potential cons. I'll just suggest that most
> of these can be avoided by using multiple drives for redundant backups.
> It's unlikely they'd all fail at once, so even if one was to wear out or
> get zapped or go through the laundry or something you'd still have
> others to fall back on. Get 2 or 3 (they're cheap these days) and
> rotate them.

It goes on a mini, so it has to be external (the mini is replacing a
blue & white, where the B/U drive was internal). I'm trying to avoid an
external disk that needs a separate power cord and all that stuff.

Isaac
From: isw on
In article <000b14b8$0$2133$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>,
JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot(a)vaxination.ca> wrote:

> For a real backup solution, rent the movie Johnny Mnemonic. :-) :-) :-)

Best idea yet...

Isaac
From: nospam on
In article <isw-C0CD34.21281918122009@[216.168.3.50]>, isw
<isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:

> > I wonder why no one has addressed this. And if one is only talking about a
> > handful of files (especially infrequently), what's the advantage of using
> > "backup" software over simply drag-and-dropping copies?
>
> It's on the Mac of a barely-capable user who works with critical
> (financial) data (she understands the finances; just not the computer),
> and so absolutely cannot be trusted to do any backing up in a reliable
> fashion. The backup app launches at login, and runs continuously, waking
> up once a week to copy the folders I told it to copy.

the perfect candidate for time machine.
From: Tom Harrington on
In article <isw-C0CD34.21281918122009@[216.168.3.50]>,
isw <isw(a)witzend.com> wrote:

> It's on the Mac of a barely-capable user who works with critical
> (financial) data (she understands the finances; just not the computer),
> and so absolutely cannot be trusted to do any backing up in a reliable
> fashion. The backup app launches at login, and runs continuously, waking
> up once a week to copy the folders I told it to copy.

Sounds like a candidate for Dropbox, <http://www.dropbox.com/>.

Have her put the files in the Dropbox folder, and the software will
silently mirror it to a Dropbox account (and optionally to other
computers) whenever it changes. She doesn't need to "do" backups,
they'll just happen, and if/when disaster strikes the files are easily
recoverable.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/