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From: Webtechie on 3 Jun 2010 19:49
Hello,

I've created a SBS 2003 environment. The domain, servers and all are up and
running. Great.

I've added a fax modem to the server. I can send faxes from my desk by
printing to the fax modem.

However, the boss says this procedure to fax is too complicated for his
employees. He wants me to code it into an Excel application using VBA to fax
out pdf files.

I've looked and don't see how in an SBS 2003 environment to send faxes from
the employee desks using VBA.

I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I need this like last week.
I'm not sure if I need a service like winfax or some internet fax company.

I thought with SBS 2003, we could use the shared faxing. Again, I got it to
work using the fax console. However, the owner doesn't want to use the fax
console, but rather use VBA code.

Any help, idea or pointing me in the right direction would be definitely
appreciated!
From: Cliff Galiher - MVP on 4 Jun 2010 00:38
I've re-read this post four times and still have no idea what you want.

SBS "shared fax" feature simply means that you don't have to have a fax
modem on/in each desktop. One on SBS and the clients can share it. What
more did you expect?

Equally importantly, what is too complicated? You say your boss wants to
use "VBA code" but end-users don't *use* VBA code. Visual Basic (for
applications or otherwise) runs in the background based on an event that
triggers it...whether that event is double-clicking to launch an application
or an event triggered by an office app to run that code.

What does your boss want the "end user" experience to be? Without knowing
that, we are in no position to answer on how to best implement that feature.

--
Cliff Galiher
Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it
out!
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
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"Webtechie" <Webtechie(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:9D2DC52A-F572-42A5-801D-4C990A5F45B2(a)microsoft.com...
> Hello,
>
> I've created a SBS 2003 environment. The domain, servers and all are up
> and
> running. Great.
>
> I've added a fax modem to the server. I can send faxes from my desk by
> printing to the fax modem.
>
> However, the boss says this procedure to fax is too complicated for his
> employees. He wants me to code it into an Excel application using VBA to
> fax
> out pdf files.
>
> I've looked and don't see how in an SBS 2003 environment to send faxes
> from
> the employee desks using VBA.
>
> I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I need this like last week.
> I'm not sure if I need a service like winfax or some internet fax company.
>
> I thought with SBS 2003, we could use the shared faxing. Again, I got it
> to
> work using the fax console. However, the owner doesn't want to use the
> fax
> console, but rather use VBA code.
>
> Any help, idea or pointing me in the right direction would be definitely
> appreciated!

From: Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP] on 4 Jun 2010 01:09
I'm kind of confused also

Too Complicated?
here are some instructions:

http://harrybrelsford.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/details-on-sending-a-fax-in-sbs-2003/

?
Russ

--
Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com


"Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgaliher(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:201DC652-CE8B-4D54-BBEC-3DF6E3F1C396(a)microsoft.com...
> I've re-read this post four times and still have no idea what you want.
>
> SBS "shared fax" feature simply means that you don't have to have a fax
> modem on/in each desktop. One on SBS and the clients can share it. What
> more did you expect?
>
> Equally importantly, what is too complicated? You say your boss wants to
> use "VBA code" but end-users don't *use* VBA code. Visual Basic (for
> applications or otherwise) runs in the background based on an event that
> triggers it...whether that event is double-clicking to launch an
> application or an event triggered by an office app to run that code.
>
> What does your boss want the "end user" experience to be? Without knowing
> that, we are in no position to answer on how to best implement that
> feature.
>
> --
> Cliff Galiher
> Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it
> out!
> http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
> Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.
>
> "Webtechie" <Webtechie(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:9D2DC52A-F572-42A5-801D-4C990A5F45B2(a)microsoft.com...
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've created a SBS 2003 environment. The domain, servers and all are up
>> and
>> running. Great.
>>
>> I've added a fax modem to the server. I can send faxes from my desk by
>> printing to the fax modem.
>>
>> However, the boss says this procedure to fax is too complicated for his
>> employees. He wants me to code it into an Excel application using VBA to
>> fax
>> out pdf files.
>>
>> I've looked and don't see how in an SBS 2003 environment to send faxes
>> from
>> the employee desks using VBA.
>>
>> I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I need this like last week.
>> I'm not sure if I need a service like winfax or some internet fax
>> company.
>>
>> I thought with SBS 2003, we could use the shared faxing. Again, I got it
>> to
>> work using the fax console. However, the owner doesn't want to use the
>> fax
>> console, but rather use VBA code.
>>
>> Any help, idea or pointing me in the right direction would be definitely
>> appreciated!
>
From: Webtechie on 4 Jun 2010 06:10
I though it was plain enough, but maybe not. Let me rephrase it.

QUESTION
=======
How do you simulate via code the SBS 2003 Fax share wizared?


Problem
=====

1. The boss says going through the Fax Share wizard is too complicated for
the employees.
2. He wants them to hit a button and a document is sent via our shared
faxing.
3. All the sites that I've seen that gives code on faxing, wants you to
have some faxing service (winfax, efax, etc.)
4. I'd like to use our shared faxing from the SBS 2003 environment.


Thanks for the URL, but again that is having the employees use the fax wizard.

You may not agree with our boss or not, but that is his requirement.



"Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:

> I'm kind of confused also
>
> Too Complicated?
> here are some instructions:
>
> http://harrybrelsford.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/details-on-sending-a-fax-in-sbs-2003/
>
> ?
> Russ
>
> --
> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
> Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>
>
> "Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgaliher(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:201DC652-CE8B-4D54-BBEC-3DF6E3F1C396(a)microsoft.com...
> > I've re-read this post four times and still have no idea what you want.
> >
> > SBS "shared fax" feature simply means that you don't have to have a fax
> > modem on/in each desktop. One on SBS and the clients can share it. What
> > more did you expect?
> >
> > Equally importantly, what is too complicated? You say your boss wants to
> > use "VBA code" but end-users don't *use* VBA code. Visual Basic (for
> > applications or otherwise) runs in the background based on an event that
> > triggers it...whether that event is double-clicking to launch an
> > application or an event triggered by an office app to run that code.
> >
> > What does your boss want the "end user" experience to be? Without knowing
> > that, we are in no position to answer on how to best implement that
> > feature.
> >
> > --
> > Cliff Galiher
> > Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it
> > out!
> > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
> > Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.
> >
> > "Webtechie" <Webtechie(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:9D2DC52A-F572-42A5-801D-4C990A5F45B2(a)microsoft.com...
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I've created a SBS 2003 environment. The domain, servers and all are up
> >> and
> >> running. Great.
> >>
> >> I've added a fax modem to the server. I can send faxes from my desk by
> >> printing to the fax modem.
> >>
> >> However, the boss says this procedure to fax is too complicated for his
> >> employees. He wants me to code it into an Excel application using VBA to
> >> fax
> >> out pdf files.
> >>
> >> I've looked and don't see how in an SBS 2003 environment to send faxes
> >> from
> >> the employee desks using VBA.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I need this like last week.
> >> I'm not sure if I need a service like winfax or some internet fax
> >> company.
> >>
> >> I thought with SBS 2003, we could use the shared faxing. Again, I got it
> >> to
> >> work using the fax console. However, the owner doesn't want to use the
> >> fax
> >> console, but rather use VBA code.
> >>
> >> Any help, idea or pointing me in the right direction would be definitely
> >> appreciated!
> >
From: Cliff Galiher - MVP on 4 Jun 2010 07:59
Still want to narrow down the requirements.

He wants you to "click a button" so I think you've partially answered my
question. You want to add a button to the office toolbar and have VB code
behind it initiate the fax process, is that correct? In other words, we are
skipping the "file->print->fax" step with a one click button.

Which is only a partial answer because it doesn't answer the rest of the
user experience question: Do you *always* fax to the same number? You have
to get that info *somehow*, so you either hard code it or you collect it
from the user at the time they click the button. If you choose to collect
that information at the time the user clicks the button (as I'd assume, as I
can't see hard-coding being a viable option...but I could be wrong!), then
what would your boss like to see simplified? The wizard is about as
straightforward as I could imagine, so I think this merits a sit-down with
the boss and have him describe *to you* what he expects the process to be.
Computers can't be psychic and guess where to fax something, so simplifying
the wizard would have to be pretty darn specific...


--
Cliff Galiher
Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check it
out!
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.

"Webtechie" <Webtechie(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:BDFCD3D3-C974-41DE-9A9A-CC47645C79A7(a)microsoft.com...
> I though it was plain enough, but maybe not. Let me rephrase it.
>
> QUESTION
> =======
> How do you simulate via code the SBS 2003 Fax share wizared?
>
>
> Problem
> =====
>
> 1. The boss says going through the Fax Share wizard is too complicated
> for
> the employees.
> 2. He wants them to hit a button and a document is sent via our shared
> faxing.
> 3. All the sites that I've seen that gives code on faxing, wants you to
> have some faxing service (winfax, efax, etc.)
> 4. I'd like to use our shared faxing from the SBS 2003 environment.
>
>
> Thanks for the URL, but again that is having the employees use the fax
> wizard.
>
> You may not agree with our boss or not, but that is his requirement.
>
>
>
> "Russ SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]" wrote:
>
>> I'm kind of confused also
>>
>> Too Complicated?
>> here are some instructions:
>>
>> http://harrybrelsford.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/details-on-sending-a-fax-in-sbs-2003/
>>
>> ?
>> Russ
>>
>> --
>> Russell Grover - SBITS.Biz [SBS-MVP]
>> MCP, MCPS, MCNPS, SBSC
>> Remote Small Business Server/Computer Support - www.SBITS.Biz
>> BPOS - Microsoft Online Services - www.Microsoft-Online-Services.com
>>
>>
>> "Cliff Galiher - MVP" <cgaliher(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:201DC652-CE8B-4D54-BBEC-3DF6E3F1C396(a)microsoft.com...
>> > I've re-read this post four times and still have no idea what you want.
>> >
>> > SBS "shared fax" feature simply means that you don't have to have a fax
>> > modem on/in each desktop. One on SBS and the clients can share it.
>> > What
>> > more did you expect?
>> >
>> > Equally importantly, what is too complicated? You say your boss wants
>> > to
>> > use "VBA code" but end-users don't *use* VBA code. Visual Basic (for
>> > applications or otherwise) runs in the background based on an event
>> > that
>> > triggers it...whether that event is double-clicking to launch an
>> > application or an event triggered by an office app to run that code.
>> >
>> > What does your boss want the "end user" experience to be? Without
>> > knowing
>> > that, we are in no position to answer on how to best implement that
>> > feature.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Cliff Galiher
>> > Microsoft has opened the Small Business Server forum on Technet! Check
>> > it
>> > out!
>> > http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-us/smallbusinessserver/threads
>> > Addicted to newsgroups? Read about the NNTP Bridge for MS Forums.
>> >
>> > "Webtechie" <Webtechie(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> > news:9D2DC52A-F572-42A5-801D-4C990A5F45B2(a)microsoft.com...
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I've created a SBS 2003 environment. The domain, servers and all are
>> >> up
>> >> and
>> >> running. Great.
>> >>
>> >> I've added a fax modem to the server. I can send faxes from my desk
>> >> by
>> >> printing to the fax modem.
>> >>
>> >> However, the boss says this procedure to fax is too complicated for
>> >> his
>> >> employees. He wants me to code it into an Excel application using VBA
>> >> to
>> >> fax
>> >> out pdf files.
>> >>
>> >> I've looked and don't see how in an SBS 2003 environment to send faxes
>> >> from
>> >> the employee desks using VBA.
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure if this is the right forum, but I need this like last
>> >> week.
>> >> I'm not sure if I need a service like winfax or some internet fax
>> >> company.
>> >>
>> >> I thought with SBS 2003, we could use the shared faxing. Again, I got
>> >> it
>> >> to
>> >> work using the fax console. However, the owner doesn't want to use
>> >> the
>> >> fax
>> >> console, but rather use VBA code.
>> >>
>> >> Any help, idea or pointing me in the right direction would be
>> >> definitely
>> >> appreciated!
>> >
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