VPC 2004 SP1 - Hangs or Get "An error has occurred"
in [Virtual PC]
|
From: ohaya on 20 Jul 2006 09:30 Colin, What you say "That is normal", what do you mean by "That"? Do you mean the guests hanging is "normal"? Jim Colin Barnhorst wrote: > That is normal on XP x86. > > "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:44BEEE64.E165BAD3(a)cox.net... >> Hi, >> >> I just got the additional 2GB in today, and installed it. >> Unfortunately, my mobo apparently only can handle ~3.3GB, even with 4 >> sticks of 1GB RAM. Anyway, it's about 700MB more than I had before, and >> the guest hosts STILL hang occasionally. >> >> I'm running a memory test now, to see if that could be the problem, but >> does anyone have any other ideas about what the problem might be? >> >> I've also increased the swap disk size on each guest to about 2.5GB, but >> still the same problem :(!! >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> ohaya wrote: >>> Colin, >>> >>> Unless I'm misunderstanding your suggestion, I don't think that I can do >>> that, because if I reduce the memory allocated for the guest hosts, as I >>> posted originally, the apps that I'm running in the guest hosts (in >>> particular, two instances of BEA WebLogic in the larger guests) won't >>> run. >>> >>> I've increased the pagefile size on the larger guests to over 2.5GB, but >>> am still having the problem. >>> >>> I have an additional 2GB of RAM on order and will try that when it gets >>> here, but if anyone has any other suggestions, please post. Also FYI, I >>> have VM Additions installed on all 3 guests. >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>> One way to find out is to reduce the ram allocated until the problem >>>> dissappears. >>>> >>>> "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>> news:O8nzZrSqGHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> I've been using VPC for awhile now, but I've been starting to use VPC >>>>> more >>>>> frequently for testing. This is on a machine with Win2K Server and >>>>> 2.5GB >>>>> of memory. >>>>> >>>>> I've noticed that I'm frequently getting situations where VPC (and the >>>>> guest hosts) will either freeze completely, or I get a popup error >>>>> saying >>>>> "An error has occurred" (and asking if I want to send something to >>>>> MS). >>>>> This happens frequently when I try to run the following guests: >>>>> >>>>> Guest1: Win2K Server SP4, 900MB memory allocated >>>>> Guest2: Win2K Server SP4, 700MB memory allocated >>>>> Guest3: Win2K Server SP4, 512MB memory allocated >>>>> >>>>> I especially notice this happening when more than one of the guests >>>>> happen >>>>> to be trying to start simultaenously, but it'll happen even when I >>>>> start >>>>> the guests one at a time. >>>>> >>>>> The total memory allocated for the guests is about 2.1GB, and I'm >>>>> wondering if the ~400MB that is left for the host might not be enough >>>>> and >>>>> causing these problems? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Jim >>>> > >
From: Colin Barnhorst on 20 Jul 2006 11:00 No, the 3GB memory reported for x86. "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:%23kGdvCArGHA.2464(a)TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > Colin, > > What you say "That is normal", what do you mean by "That"? Do you mean > the guests hanging is "normal"? > > Jim > > > > Colin Barnhorst wrote: >> That is normal on XP x86. >> >> "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message >> news:44BEEE64.E165BAD3(a)cox.net... >>> Hi, >>> >>> I just got the additional 2GB in today, and installed it. >>> Unfortunately, my mobo apparently only can handle ~3.3GB, even with 4 >>> sticks of 1GB RAM. Anyway, it's about 700MB more than I had before, and >>> the guest hosts STILL hang occasionally. >>> >>> I'm running a memory test now, to see if that could be the problem, but >>> does anyone have any other ideas about what the problem might be? >>> >>> I've also increased the swap disk size on each guest to about 2.5GB, but >>> still the same problem :(!! >>> >>> Jim >>> >>> >>> >>> ohaya wrote: >>>> Colin, >>>> >>>> Unless I'm misunderstanding your suggestion, I don't think that I can >>>> do >>>> that, because if I reduce the memory allocated for the guest hosts, as >>>> I >>>> posted originally, the apps that I'm running in the guest hosts (in >>>> particular, two instances of BEA WebLogic in the larger guests) won't >>>> run. >>>> >>>> I've increased the pagefile size on the larger guests to over 2.5GB, >>>> but >>>> am still having the problem. >>>> >>>> I have an additional 2GB of RAM on order and will try that when it gets >>>> here, but if anyone has any other suggestions, please post. Also FYI, >>>> I >>>> have VM Additions installed on all 3 guests. >>>> >>>> Jim >>>> >>>> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >>>>> One way to find out is to reduce the ram allocated until the problem >>>>> dissappears. >>>>> >>>>> "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message >>>>> news:O8nzZrSqGHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> I've been using VPC for awhile now, but I've been starting to use VPC >>>>>> more >>>>>> frequently for testing. This is on a machine with Win2K Server and >>>>>> 2.5GB >>>>>> of memory. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've noticed that I'm frequently getting situations where VPC (and >>>>>> the >>>>>> guest hosts) will either freeze completely, or I get a popup error >>>>>> saying >>>>>> "An error has occurred" (and asking if I want to send something to >>>>>> MS). >>>>>> This happens frequently when I try to run the following guests: >>>>>> >>>>>> Guest1: Win2K Server SP4, 900MB memory allocated >>>>>> Guest2: Win2K Server SP4, 700MB memory allocated >>>>>> Guest3: Win2K Server SP4, 512MB memory allocated >>>>>> >>>>>> I especially notice this happening when more than one of the guests >>>>>> happen >>>>>> to be trying to start simultaenously, but it'll happen even when I >>>>>> start >>>>>> the guests one at a time. >>>>>> >>>>>> The total memory allocated for the guests is about 2.1GB, and I'm >>>>>> wondering if the ~400MB that is left for the host might not be enough >>>>>> and >>>>>> causing these problems? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Jim >>>>> >>
From: Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP] on 20 Jul 2006 13:31 Hi, Try adding the /PAE switch to your OS in boot.ini. It should enable you to take full advantage of the 4 GB of RAM (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx) -- --Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - IIS, Virtual PC] http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step tutorial site :-) http://vpc.visualwin.com - Does <insert OS name> work on VPC 2004? Find out here Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them. "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:44BEEE64.E165BAD3(a)cox.net... > Hi, > > I just got the additional 2GB in today, and installed it. > Unfortunately, my mobo apparently only can handle ~3.3GB, even with 4 > sticks of 1GB RAM. Anyway, it's about 700MB more than I had before, and > the guest hosts STILL hang occasionally. > > I'm running a memory test now, to see if that could be the problem, but > does anyone have any other ideas about what the problem might be? > > I've also increased the swap disk size on each guest to about 2.5GB, but > still the same problem :(!! > > Jim > > > > ohaya wrote: >> >> Colin, >> >> Unless I'm misunderstanding your suggestion, I don't think that I can do >> that, because if I reduce the memory allocated for the guest hosts, as I >> posted originally, the apps that I'm running in the guest hosts (in >> particular, two instances of BEA WebLogic in the larger guests) won't >> run. >> >> I've increased the pagefile size on the larger guests to over 2.5GB, but >> am still having the problem. >> >> I have an additional 2GB of RAM on order and will try that when it gets >> here, but if anyone has any other suggestions, please post. Also FYI, I >> have VM Additions installed on all 3 guests. >> >> Jim >> >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: >> > One way to find out is to reduce the ram allocated until the problem >> > dissappears. >> > >> > "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message >> > news:O8nzZrSqGHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... >> >> Hi, >> >> >> >> I've been using VPC for awhile now, but I've been starting to use VPC >> >> more >> >> frequently for testing. This is on a machine with Win2K Server and >> >> 2.5GB >> >> of memory. >> >> >> >> I've noticed that I'm frequently getting situations where VPC (and the >> >> guest hosts) will either freeze completely, or I get a popup error >> >> saying >> >> "An error has occurred" (and asking if I want to send something to >> >> MS). >> >> This happens frequently when I try to run the following guests: >> >> >> >> Guest1: Win2K Server SP4, 900MB memory allocated >> >> Guest2: Win2K Server SP4, 700MB memory allocated >> >> Guest3: Win2K Server SP4, 512MB memory allocated >> >> >> >> I especially notice this happening when more than one of the guests >> >> happen >> >> to be trying to start simultaenously, but it'll happen even when I >> >> start >> >> the guests one at a time. >> >> >> >> The total memory allocated for the guests is about 2.1GB, and I'm >> >> wondering if the ~400MB that is left for the host might not be enough >> >> and >> >> causing these problems? >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jim >> > >> >
From: ohaya on 20 Jul 2006 14:23 [Posting this from Google Groups] Jonathan, I thought the PAE was only needed for *above* 4GB or memory? Also, even without seeing the whole 4GB, I now have 3,390MB, which seems like it should be plenty for the list of guests in my earlier email, and it STILL hangs. I should be clear: ALL the guests hang at the same time, and in Task Manager, it says "not responding". When I kill one guest, it kills them ALL. FYI, I ran a full memory test all night using Doc Memory on what memory was there, and it was fine. Also when it hangs, Task Manager in the real PC is showing 2-5% usage. This has got to be some kind of bug in VPC? Jim Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP] wrote: > Hi, > > Try adding the /PAE switch to your OS in boot.ini. It should enable you to > take full advantage of the 4 GB of RAM > (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx) > > -- > --Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - IIS, Virtual PC] > http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step > tutorial site :-) > http://vpc.visualwin.com - Does <insert OS name> work on VPC 2004? Find out > here > Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any > emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them. > > > "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:44BEEE64.E165BAD3(a)cox.net... > > Hi, > > > > I just got the additional 2GB in today, and installed it. > > Unfortunately, my mobo apparently only can handle ~3.3GB, even with 4 > > sticks of 1GB RAM. Anyway, it's about 700MB more than I had before, and > > the guest hosts STILL hang occasionally. > > > > I'm running a memory test now, to see if that could be the problem, but > > does anyone have any other ideas about what the problem might be? > > > > I've also increased the swap disk size on each guest to about 2.5GB, but > > still the same problem :(!! > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > ohaya wrote: > >> > >> Colin, > >> > >> Unless I'm misunderstanding your suggestion, I don't think that I can do > >> that, because if I reduce the memory allocated for the guest hosts, as I > >> posted originally, the apps that I'm running in the guest hosts (in > >> particular, two instances of BEA WebLogic in the larger guests) won't > >> run. > >> > >> I've increased the pagefile size on the larger guests to over 2.5GB, but > >> am still having the problem. > >> > >> I have an additional 2GB of RAM on order and will try that when it gets > >> here, but if anyone has any other suggestions, please post. Also FYI, I > >> have VM Additions installed on all 3 guests. > >> > >> Jim > >> > >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: > >> > One way to find out is to reduce the ram allocated until the problem > >> > dissappears. > >> > > >> > "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message > >> > news:O8nzZrSqGHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> I've been using VPC for awhile now, but I've been starting to use VPC > >> >> more > >> >> frequently for testing. This is on a machine with Win2K Server and > >> >> 2.5GB > >> >> of memory. > >> >> > >> >> I've noticed that I'm frequently getting situations where VPC (and the > >> >> guest hosts) will either freeze completely, or I get a popup error > >> >> saying > >> >> "An error has occurred" (and asking if I want to send something to > >> >> MS). > >> >> This happens frequently when I try to run the following guests: > >> >> > >> >> Guest1: Win2K Server SP4, 900MB memory allocated > >> >> Guest2: Win2K Server SP4, 700MB memory allocated > >> >> Guest3: Win2K Server SP4, 512MB memory allocated > >> >> > >> >> I especially notice this happening when more than one of the guests > >> >> happen > >> >> to be trying to start simultaenously, but it'll happen even when I > >> >> start > >> >> the guests one at a time. > >> >> > >> >> The total memory allocated for the guests is about 2.1GB, and I'm > >> >> wondering if the ~400MB that is left for the host might not be enough > >> >> and > >> >> causing these problems? > >> >> > >> >> Thanks, > >> >> Jim > >> > > >> >
From: ohaya on 20 Jul 2006 14:31
Hi, I also moved all of the VHDs and VMCs to my internal hard drive (originally they were on an external USB2 drive), and I STILL get the same problem. If anything, it hangs more often. Jim ohaya wrote: > [Posting this from Google Groups] > > Jonathan, > > I thought the PAE was only needed for *above* 4GB or memory? > > Also, even without seeing the whole 4GB, I now have 3,390MB, which > seems like it should be plenty for the list of guests in my earlier > email, and it STILL hangs. I should be clear: ALL the guests hang at > the same time, and in Task Manager, it says "not responding". When I > kill one guest, it kills them ALL. > > FYI, I ran a full memory test all night using Doc Memory on what memory > was there, and it was fine. > > Also when it hangs, Task Manager in the real PC is showing 2-5% usage. > > This has got to be some kind of bug in VPC? > > Jim > > > > Jonathan Maltz [MS-MVP] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Try adding the /PAE switch to your OS in boot.ini. It should enable you to > > take full advantage of the 4 GB of RAM > > (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx) > > > > -- > > --Jonathan Maltz [Microsoft MVP - Windows Server - IIS, Virtual PC] > > http://www.visualwin.com - A Windows Server 2003 visual, step-by-step > > tutorial site :-) > > http://vpc.visualwin.com - Does <insert OS name> work on VPC 2004? Find out > > here > > Only reply by newsgroup. I do not do technical support via email. Any > > emails I have not authorized are deleted before I see them. > > > > > > "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message news:44BEEE64.E165BAD3(a)cox.net... > > > Hi, > > > > > > I just got the additional 2GB in today, and installed it. > > > Unfortunately, my mobo apparently only can handle ~3.3GB, even with 4 > > > sticks of 1GB RAM. Anyway, it's about 700MB more than I had before, and > > > the guest hosts STILL hang occasionally. > > > > > > I'm running a memory test now, to see if that could be the problem, but > > > does anyone have any other ideas about what the problem might be? > > > > > > I've also increased the swap disk size on each guest to about 2.5GB, but > > > still the same problem :(!! > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ohaya wrote: > > >> > > >> Colin, > > >> > > >> Unless I'm misunderstanding your suggestion, I don't think that I can do > > >> that, because if I reduce the memory allocated for the guest hosts, as I > > >> posted originally, the apps that I'm running in the guest hosts (in > > >> particular, two instances of BEA WebLogic in the larger guests) won't > > >> run. > > >> > > >> I've increased the pagefile size on the larger guests to over 2.5GB, but > > >> am still having the problem. > > >> > > >> I have an additional 2GB of RAM on order and will try that when it gets > > >> here, but if anyone has any other suggestions, please post. Also FYI, I > > >> have VM Additions installed on all 3 guests. > > >> > > >> Jim > > >> > > >> Colin Barnhorst wrote: > > >> > One way to find out is to reduce the ram allocated until the problem > > >> > dissappears. > > >> > > > >> > "ohaya" <ohaya(a)cox.net> wrote in message > > >> > news:O8nzZrSqGHA.4508(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > > >> >> Hi, > > >> >> > > >> >> I've been using VPC for awhile now, but I've been starting to use VPC > > >> >> more > > >> >> frequently for testing. This is on a machine with Win2K Server and > > >> >> 2.5GB > > >> >> of memory. > > >> >> > > >> >> I've noticed that I'm frequently getting situations where VPC (and the > > >> >> guest hosts) will either freeze completely, or I get a popup error > > >> >> saying > > >> >> "An error has occurred" (and asking if I want to send something to > > >> >> MS). > > >> >> This happens frequently when I try to run the following guests: > > >> >> > > >> >> Guest1: Win2K Server SP4, 900MB memory allocated > > >> >> Guest2: Win2K Server SP4, 700MB memory allocated > > >> >> Guest3: Win2K Server SP4, 512MB memory allocated > > >> >> > > >> >> I especially notice this happening when more than one of the guests > > >> >> happen > > >> >> to be trying to start simultaenously, but it'll happen even when I > > >> >> start > > >> >> the guests one at a time. > > >> >> > > >> >> The total memory allocated for the guests is about 2.1GB, and I'm > > >> >> wondering if the ~400MB that is left for the host might not be enough > > >> >> and > > >> >> causing these problems? > > >> >> > > >> >> Thanks, > > >> >> Jim > > >> > > > >> > |