From: Tom Serface on
Yes, MFC is definitely not dead. I think it has new life in VC++ 2010. The
feature pack objects are a bit tricky to use without the wizards, but the
new IDE project wizard really helps make it easier to create projects with
various user interface capabilities.

Tom

"Brian Muth" <bmuth(a)mvps.org> wrote in message
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>>> Sure.... But are you saying MFC has changed since VC6 ;-).
>>>
>>
>> MFC not so much, but the IDE has been modernized. Even if you prefer
>> VC6, using such an old product is no longer better.
>>
>
> Actually, there have been some substantial improvements to the MFC,
> particularly with the support of the ribbon. It also can support a windows
> framework that resembles Visual Studio 2010 itself, which is very cool.
>
> Also, the Class Wizard (which went AWOL from 2003 to 2008) is back. Not
> exactly sure if it has been enhanced, but VC6 users will be delighted to
> use it again.
>
> Also, there is a nice CTaskDialog class which is a very cool enhanced
> message box that is nice to have in my tool box.
>
> Brian

From: Shawn Eary Shawn on
I don't really understand this post.
The post implies that there will actually be a VS 2010 Standard Version.
"you can get VS2010 Standard for $299. "

I don't think Microsoft ever intends to release a VS2010 Standard Version so
I guess I will have to keep using Eclipse and Mingw to write programs for MS
Windows. You would "think" that Intel would release their command line
compiler for MS Windows like they did for Linux; however, I wonder if
Microsoft is somehow pressuring Intel to not release a command line C++
compiler for MS Windows.

"David Ching" wrote:

> A while ago, we were bemoaning the loss of VS 2010 Standard, and the price
> of VS 2008 Professional (presumably with a free upgrade to 2010) was
> something like $1500 USD.
>
> Now there are new VS 2010 prices.
> http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Microsoft-Offers-Deals-for-Visual-Studio-2010-Retail-Customers-550413/
>
> Basically if you have VS 2005/2008 Standard, you can get VS2010 Standard for
> $299. And even if you are totally new to VS, you can get VS2010
> Professional for $799 and upgrade for $549. And Professional now comes with
> MSDN Essentials. So the prices are much cheaper than we had been led to
> believe.
>
> -- David
>
> .
>
From: David Ching on
"Shawn Eary" <Shawn Eary(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I don't really understand this post.
> The post implies that there will actually be a VS 2010 Standard Version.
> "you can get VS2010 Standard for $299. "
>
> I don't think Microsoft ever intends to release a VS2010 Standard Version
> so
> I guess I will have to keep using Eclipse and Mingw to write programs for
> MS
> Windows.

It is not clear from Soma's blog post exactly which version of VS2010 you
will get for $299, but you are right, it does not sound like it will be
Standard. It sounds like it would be Professional. But it would not
include MSDN Essentials, which you would get if you purchased Professional
at the retail price.

Regardless, it was clear that there would be something available for $299 so
fail to understand why you would feel the need to use Eclipse, etc. Also
not sure sure why you were using those in the first place and not e.g.
VS2008 Standard which remains the current one until April 12, when VS2010
becomes available.


> You would "think" that Intel would release their command line
> compiler for MS Windows like they did for Linux; however, I wonder if
> Microsoft is somehow pressuring Intel to not release a command line C++
> compiler for MS Windows.
>

I'm not attracted to use any Intel command-line compiler regardless.

-- David

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