WIN 7 Major USB Hardware Incompatibilities ?
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From: "Trev" trev_uk on 22 Feb 2010 17:22 "mike" <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote in message news:hluuvk$g1p$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Nil wrote: >> On 22 Feb 2010, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote in alt.windows7.general: >> >>> It's Microsoft's responsibility to make their new OS compatible >>> with the hardware I already have. I'm sure they have a lot of >>> excuses. I don't want excuses. I want my (*(*& hardware to >>> continue to work!!! It may not support new features, but it should >>> do at least what it used to do. >>> Period!!! >> >> Sorry, but you're living in a fantasy world - that's not the way it goes. >> Unless Microsoft makes an explicit claim that a certain piece of hardware >> will work, out-of-the-box with Windows, then it's up to the manufacturer >> to supply the device driver. That's the way it has ALWAYS worked with >> EVERY version of Windows. That's probably the way it will always work. >> Get used to it... and urge the hardware vendor to release updated >> drivers. You're more liable to get results doing that than complaining >> here or to Microsoft. >> >> I just built myself this handy dandy digital butt-scratcher with a USB >> interface. Do you suppose Windows 7 supports it? > > You're welcome to your bend-over-and-take-it attitude. > If XP could run my hardware device, there's no reason that W7 can't. > The code is already written. It works just fine. > M$ CHOSE to change things in a manner that caused a perfectly working > driver to quit working. I don't care WHY they did it. I want them > to continue to include the support they already had. > > My C: drive is 9gigabytes of M$ bloat. Another bit of bloat for legacy > support wouldn't have killed them. > > Yes, I'm sure there are all kinds of excuses. I don't want excuses. > I want those M$ geniuses to figger out how to make it work. > You can bet if it had been a priority, it would have happened. > > This "throw away everything and start over" every few years has gotta > stop!!! > > Dear valued customer, > Toyoter motor company announces an exciting new line of motor vehicles > chock full of features you'll never use. In order to support these > exciting new features, we had to change some parameters. > > Our new vehicles are no longer compatible with garages built prior > to 1998. > > Some parking spaces no longer work. You'll find that out when you > reach your destination and try to park. > > In order to use toll roads, you'll need to purchase the optional > toll upgrade that works...mostly... > > Our vehicles are no longer permitted in school zones. > > Standard gasoline from your corner filling station will still > work in compatibility mode with significantly reduced fuel mileage. > > If you have any child car seats or personal electronic items that were > used in your car, you will need to replace them. Legacy snow tires are no > longer supported. > Any towable trailers will need to be replaced. > > Our ULTIMATE upgrade is required for trips greater than 100 miles. > > Please remember that Toyoter motor company is the ONLY option available > to you. We trust you will continue to buy our products...because > you have no other choice. > > Sorry for any inconvenience. Well if you have XP drivers for 64 bit then install them in compatibility mode. Right click the setup EXE select the compatibility tab and set for XP sp3 compatible. My HP scanner only had basic drivers for WIN 7 so that what I did and got the full features.
From: Char Jackson on 22 Feb 2010 17:28 On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:06 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote: >Nil wrote: >> On 22 Feb 2010, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote in alt.windows7.general: >> >>> It's Microsoft's responsibility to make their new OS compatible >>> with the hardware I already have. I'm sure they have a lot of >>> excuses. I don't want excuses. I want my (*(*& hardware to >>> continue to work!!! It may not support new features, but it should >>> do at least what it used to do. >>> Period!!! >> >> Sorry, but you're living in a fantasy world - that's not the way it >> goes. Unless Microsoft makes an explicit claim that a certain piece of >> hardware will work, out-of-the-box with Windows, then it's up to the >> manufacturer to supply the device driver. That's the way it has ALWAYS >> worked with EVERY version of Windows. That's probably the way it will >> always work. Get used to it... and urge the hardware vendor to release >> updated drivers. You're more liable to get results doing that than >> complaining here or to Microsoft. >> >> I just built myself this handy dandy digital butt-scratcher with a USB >> interface. Do you suppose Windows 7 supports it? > >You're welcome to your bend-over-and-take-it attitude. >If XP could run my hardware device, there's no reason that W7 can't. If that were true, your devices would continue to run just as they did. Since they don't, there must be a reason. The reason is that the hardware driver is not compatible with the new OS. You have things bass ackwards if you think the OS needs to be compatible with 3rd party hardware. It's the responsibility of the 3rd party hardware vendors to provide drivers that work with the OS, not the other way around. You don't have to like it, but that's the way it is. >The code is already written. It works just fine. If it worked fine, you wouldn't be here complaining. >M$ CHOSE to change things in a manner that caused a perfectly working >driver to quit working. I don't care WHY they did it. I want them >to continue to include the support they already had. They do. Just continue to use the OS you were using. >My C: drive is 9gigabytes of M$ bloat. Another bit of bloat for legacy >support wouldn't have killed them. No thanks, I don't want tens of thousands of unneeded drivers cluttering up my system. >Yes, I'm sure there are all kinds of excuses. I don't want excuses. >I want those M$ geniuses to figger out how to make it work. >You can bet if it had been a priority, it would have happened. You can also bet if it was Microsoft's responsibility it might have happened, but the truth (whether you want to believe it or not) is that hardware vendors are responsible for providing drivers for their equipment. Period. >This "throw away everything and start over" every few years has gotta >stop!!! Who forced you to change your Operating System? If all of your devices worked with XP, why not stay with XP? In short, you're flat out wrong about where the responsibility lies here.
From: Trimble Bracegirdle on 22 Feb 2010 17:42 I'm finding some suggestions that having more than 4 Gig RAM in a Windows 7 64Bit install leads to greater problems. Hardware uses addresses at the top of memory with 64bit & greater than 4Gig RAM those addresses can be off what the device driver can cope with. (\__/) (='.'=) (")_(") mouse ( You could install Win 95 1st Issue in 40 MB's)
From: Nil on 22 Feb 2010 18:57 On 22 Feb 2010, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> wrote in alt.windows7.general: > You're welcome to your bend-over-and-take-it attitude. > If XP could run my hardware device, there's no reason that W7 > can't. The code is already written. Is it? How do you know that? Did the hardware manufacturer tell you that? It's their code, so I guess they would know. (hint: the drivers were not written by Microsoft.) > This "throw away everything and start over" every few years has > gotta stop!!! I agree with you there. It's a game the software and hardware manufacturers play with each other. That's how they stay in business. But there's a solution: don't upgrade anything. I stuck with Windows 2000 until 2006, because it worked fine for me. I only upgraded to XP when I wanted to run a program that required it, so I built a new computer from the ground up, researching all the hardware to make sure everything was compatible. And it still works. > Our new vehicles are no longer compatible with garages built prior > to 1998. Oh, darn, my engine crank doesn't work with my 2001 Prius. Call the Attorney General! Oh, dear, the engine from my '75 Cadillac won't fit in my Kia Rio! Curse you, Henry Ford! > Please remember that Toyoter motor company is the ONLY option > available to you. We trust you will continue to buy our > products...because you have no other choice. Here's where your analogy falls apart: there are alternatives. Go buy a Mac (but I bet you'll have similar problems there) or get onea them free OSs that only supports about 10 different hardware devices, or... just stay with what you have that already works. You don't have to jump on the moving Microsoft train, you know. You must be a recent Windows user, because EVERY Microsoft OS upgrade has left some hardware in the dust. If this is the first time you ever noticed it, you're lucky.
From: mikeyhsd on 22 Feb 2010 19:20
why should MS care. they did not sell you the scanner. and epson does not care since they already have your money. -- mikeyhsd(a)hotmail.com "Al Smith" <invalid(a)address.com> wrote in message news:hluimo$fo6$6(a)news.eternal-september.org... mike wrote: > It's Microsoft's responsibility to make their new OS compatible with the > hardware I already have. I'm sure they have a lot of excuses. > I don't want excuses. I want my (*(*& hardware to continue to work!!! > It may not support new features, but it should do at least what it used > to do. > Period!!! > Microsoft has let us down in that area. Sorry for any inconvenience, > my A$$. Tell me about it. I've got a perfectly good Epson Perfection Photo 1260 flatbed scanner, and it won't run under Windows 7 x64. No driver for it. Epson can't be bothered writing one, and Microsoft just doesn't care. -Al- |