WIN 7 Major USB Hardware Incompatibilities ?
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From: Bogey Man on 24 Feb 2010 11:03 "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message news:R%Wgn.62810$Ee1.55699(a)newsfe12.iad... > > "kony" <spam(a)spam.com> wrote in message > news:0mc8o5lft3dj99tk5ki9a5qorbs3t5j7ab(a)4ax.com... >> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:06 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> >> wrote: >> >> >>>This "throw away everything and start over" every few years has gotta >>>stop!!! >>> >> >> >> Why not just call the police so the person holding a gun to >> your head, forcing you to use Win7 instead of XP, is hauled >> away? >> >> Remember, you're the one who chooses what OS to use, based >> on its merits. I agree MS should take greater measures to >> support backwards compatibility with drivers but we can't >> expect it since they have a monopoly position in the PC OS >> market. > > Instead of Microsoft being responsible for backwards compatibility with > outdated hardware, why shouldn't the hardware manufacturer be responsible > for providing updated drivers? It would certainly be cheaper in the long > run for each manufacturer to write new drivers than it would be for > Microsoft to insure it, but then, HP and the rest wouldn't be selling > anything new if their 20 year old printer has Windows 7 drivers. Are you > willing to pay the extra big bucks for Windows to be compatible with every > piece of hardware ever made? Can you even imagine what that cost would be? > I can't. All I could see would be "You can have the latest Windows > version, Windows 2015, for only $3,917 for the Home Starter Edition, with > guaranteed backwards compatibility through Windows3.11." Ain't gonna > happen in our lifetimes :-) > -- > SC Tom Epson has a Windows 7 driver for that scanner on their site. So, what's the problem?
From: SC Tom on 24 Feb 2010 11:10 "Bogey Man" <newdoverman(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message news:hm3ikf$5i3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message > news:R%Wgn.62810$Ee1.55699(a)newsfe12.iad... >> >> "kony" <spam(a)spam.com> wrote in message >> news:0mc8o5lft3dj99tk5ki9a5qorbs3t5j7ab(a)4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:06 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>>This "throw away everything and start over" every few years has gotta >>>>stop!!! >>>> >>> >>> >>> Why not just call the police so the person holding a gun to >>> your head, forcing you to use Win7 instead of XP, is hauled >>> away? >>> >>> Remember, you're the one who chooses what OS to use, based >>> on its merits. I agree MS should take greater measures to >>> support backwards compatibility with drivers but we can't >>> expect it since they have a monopoly position in the PC OS >>> market. >> >> Instead of Microsoft being responsible for backwards compatibility with >> outdated hardware, why shouldn't the hardware manufacturer be responsible >> for providing updated drivers? It would certainly be cheaper in the long >> run for each manufacturer to write new drivers than it would be for >> Microsoft to insure it, but then, HP and the rest wouldn't be selling >> anything new if their 20 year old printer has Windows 7 drivers. Are you >> willing to pay the extra big bucks for Windows to be compatible with >> every piece of hardware ever made? Can you even imagine what that cost >> would be? I can't. All I could see would be "You can have the latest >> Windows version, Windows 2015, for only $3,917 for the Home Starter >> Edition, with guaranteed backwards compatibility through Windows3.11." >> Ain't gonna happen in our lifetimes :-) >> -- >> SC Tom > > > Epson has a Windows 7 driver for that scanner on their site. So, what's > the problem? Not a problem for me; I don't own an Epson :-)
From: Al Smith on 24 Feb 2010 13:08 SC Tom wrote: > > "Bogey Man" <newdoverman(a)yahoo.ca> wrote in message > news:hm3ikf$5i3$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote in message >> news:R%Wgn.62810$Ee1.55699(a)newsfe12.iad... >>> >>> "kony" <spam(a)spam.com> wrote in message >>> news:0mc8o5lft3dj99tk5ki9a5qorbs3t5j7ab(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:02:06 -0800, mike <spamme0(a)go.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> This "throw away everything and start over" every few years has gotta >>>>> stop!!! >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Why not just call the police so the person holding a gun to >>>> your head, forcing you to use Win7 instead of XP, is hauled >>>> away? >>>> >>>> Remember, you're the one who chooses what OS to use, based >>>> on its merits. I agree MS should take greater measures to >>>> support backwards compatibility with drivers but we can't >>>> expect it since they have a monopoly position in the PC OS >>>> market. >>> >>> Instead of Microsoft being responsible for backwards compatibility >>> with outdated hardware, why shouldn't the hardware manufacturer be >>> responsible for providing updated drivers? It would certainly be >>> cheaper in the long run for each manufacturer to write new drivers >>> than it would be for Microsoft to insure it, but then, HP and the >>> rest wouldn't be selling anything new if their 20 year old printer >>> has Windows 7 drivers. Are you willing to pay the extra big bucks for >>> Windows to be compatible with every piece of hardware ever made? Can >>> you even imagine what that cost would be? I can't. All I could see >>> would be "You can have the latest Windows version, Windows 2015, for >>> only $3,917 for the Home Starter Edition, with guaranteed backwards >>> compatibility through Windows3.11." Ain't gonna happen in our >>> lifetimes :-) >>> -- >>> SC Tom >> >> >> Epson has a Windows 7 driver for that scanner on their site. So, >> what's the problem? > > Not a problem for me; I don't own an Epson :-) > Probably writing to me. The last time I looked, Epson had no Windows 7 x64 driver for my Perfection 1260 scanner. Maybe they have come up with one, but I doubt it. I'll take a look, though. -Al-
From: kony on 25 Feb 2010 09:18
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 16:34:21 -0500, "SC Tom" <sc(a)tom.net> wrote: >> To some extent I agree that would be nice, but I propose >> instead that MS should have a compatibility mode for drivers >> so a newer OS at the very least universally supports any >> driver that worked on the prior OS version. > >But then MS would have to have a cache of all the older drivers that they >had nothing to do with. MS didn't write them, HP, dell, etc. did. > No, it is ridiculous to think MS is somehow obligated to maintain drivers. I'm completely against the idea they need to provide any drivers at all... if somone can't get a driver installed they aren't fit to set up a PC in the first place, period. >> No it certainly would not be cheaper. Remember, they >> already had the code developed to use the existing drivers, >> it was their choice to deviate and so it should be their >> responsiblity to accept upon themselves the consequences. > >Who had the code developed? Not MS; it wasn't their hardware or drivers. Which leads back to the central idea, that if MS doesn't control drivers, then their best position in a *competitive* market would be not changing code so the vast, vast amount of drivers that exist no longer work. |