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From: bz on 4 Jan 2008 08:52
HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote in
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> Each photon is a separate oscillator.
> Each photon leaves the source in phase with itself. When it splits into
> two

Splitting a photon 'in two' would give TWO photons, each with half the
energy.


Half the energy would require EITHER
half the frequency and twice the wavelength OR
square root of the velocity.
Otherwise you violate the conservation of momentum.

Half silvered mirrors allow photons to pass through with 50% probability of
reflection and 50% chance of pass through.

Half the photons go one way and half go the other.

Photons are not wit. You can not have 'half a photon'.





--
bz

please pardon my infinite ignorance, the set-of-things-I-do-not-know is an
infinite set.

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From: Dr. Henri Wilson on 4 Jan 2008 15:14
On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:52:20 +0000 (UTC), bz <bz+spr(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu>
wrote:

>HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote in
>news:v84mn3plteco8vgtjsl7pvnp03i1vf9b5j(a)4ax.com:
>
>> Each photon is a separate oscillator.
>> Each photon leaves the source in phase with itself. When it splits into
>> two
>
>Splitting a photon 'in two' would give TWO photons, each with half the
>energy.

Yes that's correct Bob.

You have come in late here and can be excused for not appreciating that I have
been using the term 'photon' as a short way of writing 'a short element of a
ray'. The way in which individual photons interact has not really been
considered...but in a coherent beam, it would be fair to assume that all those
in a particular 'cross sectional plane' are pretty well in phase.

So when I say 'the photon splits in two halves', I really mean 'a short section
of the ray containing lots of photons in phase divides into two'.

>Half the energy would require EITHER
>half the frequency and twice the wavelength OR
>square root of the velocity.
>Otherwise you violate the conservation of momentum.
>
>Half silvered mirrors allow photons to pass through with 50% probability of
>reflection and 50% chance of pass through.

that's what QM tells us.

>Half the photons go one way and half go the other.
>
>Photons are not wit. You can not have 'half a photon'.



Henri Wilson. ASTC,BSc,DSc(T)

www.users.bigpond.com/hewn/index.htm
From: Jeckyl on 5 Jan 2008 05:43
"Dr. Henri Wilson" <HW@....> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 13:52:20 +0000 (UTC), bz <bz+spr(a)ch100-5.chem.lsu.edu>
> wrote:
>
>>HW@....(Dr. Henri Wilson) wrote in
>>news:v84mn3plteco8vgtjsl7pvnp03i1vf9b5j(a)4ax.com:
>>
>>> Each photon is a separate oscillator.
>>> Each photon leaves the source in phase with itself. When it splits into
>>> two
>>
>>Splitting a photon 'in two' would give TWO photons, each with half the
>>energy.
>
> Yes that's correct Bob.
>
> You have come in late here and can be excused for not appreciating that I
> have
> been using the term 'photon' as a short way of writing 'a short element of
> a
> ray'.

That sounds like a posthumous excuse. You've not been using it in any such
way

> The way in which individual photons interact has not really been
> considered...but in a coherent beam, it would be fair to assume that all
> those
> in a particular 'cross sectional plane' are pretty well in phase.
>
> So when I say 'the photon splits in two halves', I really mean 'a short
> section
> of the ray containing lots of photons in phase divides into two'.

Really .. you just got it wrong (yet again), and are now trying to cover
your mistake


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