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From: D Yuniskis on 6 May 2010 20:56 Joerg wrote: > D Yuniskis wrote: >> Hi Joerg, >> >> Joerg wrote: >>> D Yuniskis wrote: >>> >>>> My folks put shutoffs for the outside water *in* the house >>>> when the house was built. Never really understood why >>>> (water is plentiful, there). >>> >>> A neighbor found out the hard way why that would have made sense: >>> Vandals connected a hose, shoved it through a roof vent, turned it on >>> and hightailed it. Major damage, water was running out of the front >>> door. >> >> Yikes! Not the sort of thing that would happen in my folks' >> neighborhood -- everyone watches out for each other and >> their properties (e.g., walk into my folks' house and there is >> a key rack by the door -- with keys to all of the neighbors' >> homes!). > > Same here. But they must have come in the dead of night while the owners > were on vacation. Watchful neighbors (us, during the dog walk) noticed > and made sure it was turned off but the damage was done. Sometimes > people show up in neighborhoods where it's clear they "don't belong > there". For this stuff, all it took was very few hours and the damage > was done. Aside from a few "independant" (until *they* need something! :> ) neighbors, most of this neighborhood is pretty good at keeping an eye out for unusual activity. Cop across the street. Fireman two doors down. etc. Usually, problems don;t repeat themselves :> (i.e., a call to the beat cop to park up the corner quickly cut down on the youngsters hot-rodding through the neighborhood). I think a lot of it depends on how "connected" you are with those around you. I do a lot of walking so lots of people recognize me (though I typically don't recognize *them* when they drive by -- since I don't wear my glasses while walking). Distressing when someone approaches you in a store "all smiles" and you haven't a clue as to who they are :-/ (Had a pretty young lady approach me last week -- "You probably don't recognize me without my dogs..." :> ) >> In school, it ws not uncommon to have water running down the >> stairs (indoor) -- we would have "water fights" with garden >> hoses *indoors*. Administration obviously wasn't real happy >> with this :> >> >> A neighbor (here) once had folks throw fluorescent lamps (tubes) >> into his pool and then tried to pelt them with *rocks*. (!) >> Makes you wonder what he did to prompt this sort of activity! >> :< > > See, stuff can happen in all neighborhoods. Of course! Though the incident I mentioned happened ~20 years ago (before I moved here). And, as I said, "makes you wonder what he did to prompt this sort of activity"! :> (i.e., 1:3 homes have pools here -- yet I've never heard of anyone else getting "similar treatment"!)
From: krw on 6 May 2010 23:20 On Thu, 06 May 2010 20:38:51 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >On 5/6/2010 8:13 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Thu, 06 May 2010 20:03:55 -0400, Phil Hobbs >> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >> >>> On 5/6/2010 7:57 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT), "langwadt(a)fonz.dk"<langwadt(a)fonz.dk> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 6 Maj, 23:33, Joerg<inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Joerg, >>>>>> >>>>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I use a WiFi PDA to do that -- no need to rely on the phone >>>>>>>>> company for it's delivery! :> But, I don't want to have >>>>>>>>> to carry it with me all the time -- *especially* when out >>>>>>>>> in the yard. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Then you are probably too old. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Without a doubt! :> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> So am I. Youngsters carry their portable electronic gizmos with them >>>>>>>> all the time. I'll never understand that. >>>>>> >>>>>>> Can you spell "lonely"? ;) >>>>>> >>>>>>> I also can't imagine any sort of portable device standing >>>>>>> up to the sort of abuse it would experience if I carried it >>>>>>> on my person all the time. E.g., felling trees, digging holes, >>>>>>> doing carpentry, etc. My eyeglasses have *glass* lenses >>>>>>> because plastic ones scratch in no time at all (my glass >>>>>>> lenses actually have deep scratches in them, presently) >>>>>> >>>>>> Where can one get non-prescription "magnifier" type glass-lens >>>>>> eyeglasses? The Dollar-store or Costco kind. I just need 1.5x to 3.5x, >>>>>> depending on whether reading or soldering 0402 stuff. So far mine are >>>>>> all plastic and yeah, they do scratch quickly. Scratches are ok for my >>>>>> lab bench SMT glasses but not for the weaker ones I use during CAD work. >>>>>> >>>>> snip >>>>> >>>>> do they even make glasses with actual glass anymore? never had a pair >>>>> that >>>>> wasn't plastic >>>> >>>> Sure, but you have to special order them. They're expensive, too. >>>> >>>>> I wear presciption glasses ll the time so they are ofcourse expensive >>>>> plastics with >>>>> scratch resistant coarting and they they don't just lay around, they >>>>> sit on my >>>>> nose but they last for years without scratches. >>>> >>>> AFAIK, all plastic lenses have "scratch resistant" coatings. The kicker, for >>>> the optometrist, is the anti-glare coatings. I just bought a pair of lenses >>>> for my second pair (the ones that get scratched ;). The lenses (scratch >>>> resistant bifocals) were $75. If I wanted the anti-glare coating it was >>>> another $75. >>> >>> Try out Zenni Optical. You can get 5 pairs with anti-glare for that >>> $150. I'm terribly hard on reading glasses for some reason, so I buy lots. >> >> Prescription bifocals? That asked, the ones I got from our vision plan >> weren't worth $20 (and I paid for the anti-glare coating). > >Any prescription you like, in most varieties including progressives in >photochromic PC. Bifocals are a bit more, but still very reasonable. >Check it out. I priced a random pair at about $40, not bad at all. Cheaper than the other online places I looked, too. They only charge $5 for the anti-reflective coating. The problem, like my optometrist, they don't have any lenses (at least that I found) large enough. These are something like 44x65. It's clear how "eye care" insurance plans can charge a couple of bucks a week, though.
From: ehsjr on 7 May 2010 00:32 Joerg wrote: > ehsjr wrote: > >> D Yuniskis wrote: >> >>> Hi John, >>> >>> John Ferrell wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 14:05:31 -0700, D Yuniskis >>>> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I need some sort of "button" (sensor?) that I can locate out >>>>> "in the elements" and use to activate the irrigation system. >>>>> I.e., "push this button to turn on the water supply". >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I have a switch on a sump pump at the bottom of a ramp entrance to my >>>> basement workshop. I has been there for about 17 years without any >>>> problems. Its purpose is to allow the pump to be turned off for >>>> service. It is a common electric switch from the home improvement >>>> store in a normal weather proof utility box from th same place. >>>> Meets code, works well and easily replaced when the time comes. Less >>>> than $20. >>> >>> >>> >>> Weatherproof j-box is not "unobtrusive" :> >>> >>> Also, I don't want a "switch" that holds "state" (though I >>> can obviously deliberately *ignore* that state) since the >>> purpose of the "button" is to *call* for water -- not *gate* >>> the water supply. I.e., I will turn the water off "later" >>> without regard for the state of the switch *or* the manual >>> valve on the hose bib. >>> >>> I think the magnetic-sensor-with-attached-magnet scheme >>> I described elsewhere will work. I just need to come up with >>> a pleasing way of dressing it up! >> >> >> Affix your magnet to something that won't rust, and hang it on >> the hose bib. Something like a nylon or plastic shower curtain >> hook would work, so that the magnet is fairly close to the hose >> bib. (To make it less obtrusive looking.) Mount your reed close >> to the bib, but above it. The magnet hangs down, the reed is >> above - so you pivot the magnet around the bib once to get a >> momentary make on the reed. The rest is electronics for your on >> time. You can also build the electronics such that, if you hold >> the magnet there for a full second, it resets the timer, in case >> you want to manually turn the irrigation off before the timer does. >> > > Our foxes would carry that off within the week :-) > Neat! (That you get to see foxes. Probably a downside to that, too.) He could use a stainless hose clamp with the magnet epoxied on to be fox/varmint proof, or some other variation, but who knows? It's really an exercise in camoflage. Maybe just a sound detector, where you knock on the pipe 3 times to turn the system on. (Apologies to T. Orlando & Dawn.) :-) Ed
From: Joerg on 7 May 2010 11:42 ehsjr wrote: > Joerg wrote: >> ehsjr wrote: >> >>> D Yuniskis wrote: >>> >>>> Hi John, >>>> >>>> John Ferrell wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 04 May 2010 14:05:31 -0700, D Yuniskis >>>>> <not.going.to.be(a)seen.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I need some sort of "button" (sensor?) that I can locate out >>>>>> "in the elements" and use to activate the irrigation system. >>>>>> I.e., "push this button to turn on the water supply". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have a switch on a sump pump at the bottom of a ramp entrance to my >>>>> basement workshop. I has been there for about 17 years without any >>>>> problems. Its purpose is to allow the pump to be turned off for >>>>> service. It is a common electric switch from the home improvement >>>>> store in a normal weather proof utility box from th same place. >>>>> Meets code, works well and easily replaced when the time comes. Less >>>>> than $20. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Weatherproof j-box is not "unobtrusive" :> >>>> >>>> Also, I don't want a "switch" that holds "state" (though I >>>> can obviously deliberately *ignore* that state) since the >>>> purpose of the "button" is to *call* for water -- not *gate* >>>> the water supply. I.e., I will turn the water off "later" >>>> without regard for the state of the switch *or* the manual >>>> valve on the hose bib. >>>> >>>> I think the magnetic-sensor-with-attached-magnet scheme >>>> I described elsewhere will work. I just need to come up with >>>> a pleasing way of dressing it up! >>> >>> >>> Affix your magnet to something that won't rust, and hang it on >>> the hose bib. Something like a nylon or plastic shower curtain >>> hook would work, so that the magnet is fairly close to the hose >>> bib. (To make it less obtrusive looking.) Mount your reed close >>> to the bib, but above it. The magnet hangs down, the reed is >>> above - so you pivot the magnet around the bib once to get a >>> momentary make on the reed. The rest is electronics for your on >>> time. You can also build the electronics such that, if you hold >>> the magnet there for a full second, it resets the timer, in case >>> you want to manually turn the irrigation off before the timer does. >>> >> >> Our foxes would carry that off within the week :-) >> > > Neat! (That you get to see foxes. Probably a downside to that, > too.) ... Not really. They are very tidy animals, never soil open pathways, and they sure keep their kits obedient. Seen that several times when one wanted to goof off or get our dogs all riled up. They trust us so much that they showed us their kits a few times and even had no problems nursing right there in the driveway, next to the garage. But they are wild so we keep our distance. They don't have the same emotional bond to man as dogs do. I was kind of disappointed when one came back from winter quarters, I was at the barbecue and it walked right past me (so it obviously knew the property and that I could be trusted). No special looks, no tail wagging. [...] -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: JosephKK on 9 May 2010 14:05
On Thu, 06 May 2010 22:20:42 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >On Thu, 06 May 2010 20:38:51 -0400, Phil Hobbs ><pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: > >>On 5/6/2010 8:13 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Thu, 06 May 2010 20:03:55 -0400, Phil Hobbs >>> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/6/2010 7:57 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT), "langwadt(a)fonz.dk"<langwadt(a)fonz.dk> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 6 Maj, 23:33, Joerg<inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Joerg, >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Joerg wrote: >>>>>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I use a WiFi PDA to do that -- no need to rely on the phone >>>>>>>>>> company for it's delivery! :> But, I don't want to have >>>>>>>>>> to carry it with me all the time -- *especially* when out >>>>>>>>>> in the yard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then you are probably too old. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Without a doubt! :> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So am I. Youngsters carry their portable electronic gizmos with them >>>>>>>>> all the time. I'll never understand that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can you spell "lonely"? ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I also can't imagine any sort of portable device standing >>>>>>>> up to the sort of abuse it would experience if I carried it >>>>>>>> on my person all the time. E.g., felling trees, digging holes, >>>>>>>> doing carpentry, etc. My eyeglasses have *glass* lenses >>>>>>>> because plastic ones scratch in no time at all (my glass >>>>>>>> lenses actually have deep scratches in them, presently) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where can one get non-prescription "magnifier" type glass-lens >>>>>>> eyeglasses? The Dollar-store or Costco kind. I just need 1.5x to 3.5x, >>>>>>> depending on whether reading or soldering 0402 stuff. So far mine are >>>>>>> all plastic and yeah, they do scratch quickly. Scratches are ok for my >>>>>>> lab bench SMT glasses but not for the weaker ones I use during CAD work. >>>>>>> >>>>>> snip >>>>>> >>>>>> do they even make glasses with actual glass anymore? never had a pair >>>>>> that >>>>>> wasn't plastic >>>>> >>>>> Sure, but you have to special order them. They're expensive, too. >>>>> >>>>>> I wear presciption glasses ll the time so they are ofcourse expensive >>>>>> plastics with >>>>>> scratch resistant coarting and they they don't just lay around, they >>>>>> sit on my >>>>>> nose but they last for years without scratches. >>>>> >>>>> AFAIK, all plastic lenses have "scratch resistant" coatings. The kicker, for >>>>> the optometrist, is the anti-glare coatings. I just bought a pair of lenses >>>>> for my second pair (the ones that get scratched ;). The lenses (scratch >>>>> resistant bifocals) were $75. If I wanted the anti-glare coating it was >>>>> another $75. >>>> >>>> Try out Zenni Optical. You can get 5 pairs with anti-glare for that >>>> $150. I'm terribly hard on reading glasses for some reason, so I buy lots. >>> >>> Prescription bifocals? That asked, the ones I got from our vision plan >>> weren't worth $20 (and I paid for the anti-glare coating). >> >>Any prescription you like, in most varieties including progressives in >>photochromic PC. Bifocals are a bit more, but still very reasonable. >>Check it out. > >I priced a random pair at about $40, not bad at all. Cheaper than the other >online places I looked, too. They only charge $5 for the anti-reflective >coating. The problem, like my optometrist, they don't have any lenses (at >least that I found) large enough. These are something like 44x65. It's clear >how "eye care" insurance plans can charge a couple of bucks a week, though. And still only a modest "discount" on worthwhile frames. |