From: Joerg on
D Yuniskis wrote:
> Hi Joerg,
>
> Joerg wrote:
>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>
>>> My folks put shutoffs for the outside water *in* the house
>>> when the house was built. Never really understood why
>>> (water is plentiful, there).
>>
>> A neighbor found out the hard way why that would have made sense:
>> Vandals connected a hose, shoved it through a roof vent, turned it on
>> and hightailed it. Major damage, water was running out of the front door.
>
> Yikes! Not the sort of thing that would happen in my folks'
> neighborhood -- everyone watches out for each other and
> their properties (e.g., walk into my folks' house and there is
> a key rack by the door -- with keys to all of the neighbors'
> homes!).
>

Same here. But they must have come in the dead of night while the owners
were on vacation. Watchful neighbors (us, during the dog walk) noticed
and made sure it was turned off but the damage was done. Sometimes
people show up in neighborhoods where it's clear they "don't belong
there". For this stuff, all it took was very few hours and the damage
was done.


> In school, it ws not uncommon to have water running down the
> stairs (indoor) -- we would have "water fights" with garden
> hoses *indoors*. Administration obviously wasn't real happy
> with this :>
>
> A neighbor (here) once had folks throw fluorescent lamps (tubes)
> into his pool and then tried to pelt them with *rocks*. (!)
> Makes you wonder what he did to prompt this sort of activity!
> :<


See, stuff can happen in all neighborhoods.

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From: krw on
On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT), "langwadt(a)fonz.dk" <langwadt(a)fonz.dk>
wrote:

>On 6 Maj, 23:33, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>> > Hi Joerg,
>>
>> > Joerg wrote:
>> >> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>
>> >>> I use a WiFi PDA to do that -- no need to rely on the phone
>> >>> company for it's delivery! �:> �But, I don't want to have
>> >>> to carry it with me all the time -- *especially* when out
>> >>> in the yard.
>>
>> >> Then you are probably too old.
>>
>> > Without a doubt! �:>
>>
>> >> So am I. Youngsters carry their portable electronic gizmos with them
>> >> all the time. I'll never understand that.
>>
>> > Can you spell "lonely"? �;)
>>
>> > I also can't imagine any sort of portable device standing
>> > up to the sort of abuse it would experience if I carried it
>> > on my person all the time. �E.g., felling trees, digging holes,
>> > doing carpentry, etc. �My eyeglasses have *glass* lenses
>> > because plastic ones scratch in no time at all (my glass
>> > lenses actually have deep scratches in them, presently)
>>
>> Where can one get non-prescription "magnifier" type glass-lens
>> eyeglasses? The Dollar-store or Costco kind. I just need 1.5x to 3.5x,
>> depending on whether reading or soldering 0402 stuff. So far mine are
>> all plastic and yeah, they do scratch quickly. Scratches are ok for my
>> lab bench SMT glasses but not for the weaker ones I use during CAD work.
>>
>snip
>
>do they even make glasses with actual glass anymore? never had a pair
>that
>wasn't plastic

Sure, but you have to special order them. They're expensive, too.

>I wear presciption glasses ll the time so they are ofcourse expensive
>plastics with
>scratch resistant coarting and they they don't just lay around, they
>sit on my
>nose but they last for years without scratches.

AFAIK, all plastic lenses have "scratch resistant" coatings. The kicker, for
the optometrist, is the anti-glare coatings. I just bought a pair of lenses
for my second pair (the ones that get scratched ;). The lenses (scratch
resistant bifocals) were $75. If I wanted the anti-glare coating it was
another $75.
From: Phil Hobbs on
On 5/6/2010 7:57 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT), "langwadt(a)fonz.dk"<langwadt(a)fonz.dk>
> wrote:
>
>> On 6 Maj, 23:33, Joerg<inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>>> Hi Joerg,
>>>
>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> I use a WiFi PDA to do that -- no need to rely on the phone
>>>>>> company for it's delivery! :> But, I don't want to have
>>>>>> to carry it with me all the time -- *especially* when out
>>>>>> in the yard.
>>>
>>>>> Then you are probably too old.
>>>
>>>> Without a doubt! :>
>>>
>>>>> So am I. Youngsters carry their portable electronic gizmos with them
>>>>> all the time. I'll never understand that.
>>>
>>>> Can you spell "lonely"? ;)
>>>
>>>> I also can't imagine any sort of portable device standing
>>>> up to the sort of abuse it would experience if I carried it
>>>> on my person all the time. E.g., felling trees, digging holes,
>>>> doing carpentry, etc. My eyeglasses have *glass* lenses
>>>> because plastic ones scratch in no time at all (my glass
>>>> lenses actually have deep scratches in them, presently)
>>>
>>> Where can one get non-prescription "magnifier" type glass-lens
>>> eyeglasses? The Dollar-store or Costco kind. I just need 1.5x to 3.5x,
>>> depending on whether reading or soldering 0402 stuff. So far mine are
>>> all plastic and yeah, they do scratch quickly. Scratches are ok for my
>>> lab bench SMT glasses but not for the weaker ones I use during CAD work.
>>>
>> snip
>>
>> do they even make glasses with actual glass anymore? never had a pair
>> that
>> wasn't plastic
>
> Sure, but you have to special order them. They're expensive, too.
>
>> I wear presciption glasses ll the time so they are ofcourse expensive
>> plastics with
>> scratch resistant coarting and they they don't just lay around, they
>> sit on my
>> nose but they last for years without scratches.
>
> AFAIK, all plastic lenses have "scratch resistant" coatings. The kicker, for
> the optometrist, is the anti-glare coatings. I just bought a pair of lenses
> for my second pair (the ones that get scratched ;). The lenses (scratch
> resistant bifocals) were $75. If I wanted the anti-glare coating it was
> another $75.

Try out Zenni Optical. You can get 5 pairs with anti-glare for that
$150. I'm terribly hard on reading glasses for some reason, so I buy lots.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net
From: krw on
On Thu, 06 May 2010 20:03:55 -0400, Phil Hobbs
<pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:

>On 5/6/2010 7:57 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT), "langwadt(a)fonz.dk"<langwadt(a)fonz.dk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 6 Maj, 23:33, Joerg<inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>>>> Hi Joerg,
>>>>
>>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> I use a WiFi PDA to do that -- no need to rely on the phone
>>>>>>> company for it's delivery! :> But, I don't want to have
>>>>>>> to carry it with me all the time -- *especially* when out
>>>>>>> in the yard.
>>>>
>>>>>> Then you are probably too old.
>>>>
>>>>> Without a doubt! :>
>>>>
>>>>>> So am I. Youngsters carry their portable electronic gizmos with them
>>>>>> all the time. I'll never understand that.
>>>>
>>>>> Can you spell "lonely"? ;)
>>>>
>>>>> I also can't imagine any sort of portable device standing
>>>>> up to the sort of abuse it would experience if I carried it
>>>>> on my person all the time. E.g., felling trees, digging holes,
>>>>> doing carpentry, etc. My eyeglasses have *glass* lenses
>>>>> because plastic ones scratch in no time at all (my glass
>>>>> lenses actually have deep scratches in them, presently)
>>>>
>>>> Where can one get non-prescription "magnifier" type glass-lens
>>>> eyeglasses? The Dollar-store or Costco kind. I just need 1.5x to 3.5x,
>>>> depending on whether reading or soldering 0402 stuff. So far mine are
>>>> all plastic and yeah, they do scratch quickly. Scratches are ok for my
>>>> lab bench SMT glasses but not for the weaker ones I use during CAD work.
>>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>> do they even make glasses with actual glass anymore? never had a pair
>>> that
>>> wasn't plastic
>>
>> Sure, but you have to special order them. They're expensive, too.
>>
>>> I wear presciption glasses ll the time so they are ofcourse expensive
>>> plastics with
>>> scratch resistant coarting and they they don't just lay around, they
>>> sit on my
>>> nose but they last for years without scratches.
>>
>> AFAIK, all plastic lenses have "scratch resistant" coatings. The kicker, for
>> the optometrist, is the anti-glare coatings. I just bought a pair of lenses
>> for my second pair (the ones that get scratched ;). The lenses (scratch
>> resistant bifocals) were $75. If I wanted the anti-glare coating it was
>> another $75.
>
>Try out Zenni Optical. You can get 5 pairs with anti-glare for that
>$150. I'm terribly hard on reading glasses for some reason, so I buy lots.

Prescription bifocals? That asked, the ones I got from our vision plan
weren't worth $20 (and I paid for the anti-glare coating).
From: Phil Hobbs on
On 5/6/2010 8:13 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
> On Thu, 06 May 2010 20:03:55 -0400, Phil Hobbs
> <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote:
>
>> On 5/6/2010 7:57 PM, krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote:
>>> On Thu, 6 May 2010 16:10:44 -0700 (PDT), "langwadt(a)fonz.dk"<langwadt(a)fonz.dk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 6 Maj, 23:33, Joerg<inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Joerg,
>>>>>
>>>>>> Joerg wrote:
>>>>>>> D Yuniskis wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I use a WiFi PDA to do that -- no need to rely on the phone
>>>>>>>> company for it's delivery! :> But, I don't want to have
>>>>>>>> to carry it with me all the time -- *especially* when out
>>>>>>>> in the yard.
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then you are probably too old.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Without a doubt! :>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> So am I. Youngsters carry their portable electronic gizmos with them
>>>>>>> all the time. I'll never understand that.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you spell "lonely"? ;)
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also can't imagine any sort of portable device standing
>>>>>> up to the sort of abuse it would experience if I carried it
>>>>>> on my person all the time. E.g., felling trees, digging holes,
>>>>>> doing carpentry, etc. My eyeglasses have *glass* lenses
>>>>>> because plastic ones scratch in no time at all (my glass
>>>>>> lenses actually have deep scratches in them, presently)
>>>>>
>>>>> Where can one get non-prescription "magnifier" type glass-lens
>>>>> eyeglasses? The Dollar-store or Costco kind. I just need 1.5x to 3.5x,
>>>>> depending on whether reading or soldering 0402 stuff. So far mine are
>>>>> all plastic and yeah, they do scratch quickly. Scratches are ok for my
>>>>> lab bench SMT glasses but not for the weaker ones I use during CAD work.
>>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>> do they even make glasses with actual glass anymore? never had a pair
>>>> that
>>>> wasn't plastic
>>>
>>> Sure, but you have to special order them. They're expensive, too.
>>>
>>>> I wear presciption glasses ll the time so they are ofcourse expensive
>>>> plastics with
>>>> scratch resistant coarting and they they don't just lay around, they
>>>> sit on my
>>>> nose but they last for years without scratches.
>>>
>>> AFAIK, all plastic lenses have "scratch resistant" coatings. The kicker, for
>>> the optometrist, is the anti-glare coatings. I just bought a pair of lenses
>>> for my second pair (the ones that get scratched ;). The lenses (scratch
>>> resistant bifocals) were $75. If I wanted the anti-glare coating it was
>>> another $75.
>>
>> Try out Zenni Optical. You can get 5 pairs with anti-glare for that
>> $150. I'm terribly hard on reading glasses for some reason, so I buy lots.
>
> Prescription bifocals? That asked, the ones I got from our vision plan
> weren't worth $20 (and I paid for the anti-glare coating).

Any prescription you like, in most varieties including progressives in
photochromic PC. Bifocals are a bit more, but still very reasonable.
Check it out.

Cheers

Phil Hobbs

--
Dr Philip C D Hobbs
Principal
ElectroOptical Innovations
55 Orchard Rd
Briarcliff Manor NY 10510
845-480-2058
hobbs at electrooptical dot net
http://electrooptical.net