From: Greegor on
On May 26, 11:08 pm, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 12:53:33 -0700, mike <spam...(a)go.com> wrote:
> >D Yuniskis wrote:
> >> Hi,
>
> >> I need some sort of "button" (sensor?) that I can locate out
> >> "in the elements" and use to activate the irrigation system.
> >> I.e., "push this button to turn on the water supply".
>
> >> It need not be a traditional "button" (in the electrical sense).
> >> E.g., a pressure sensitive pneumatic switch, a photoreflective
> >> sensor, etc. would all provide the intended function.  The
> >> trick is finding something that will operate reliably and for
> >> many years when exposed to sun, rain, ice, etc.
>
> >> Ideally, the thing will be cosmetically unassuming so you
> >> don't notice it unless you go *looking* for it (despite the
> >> fact that it will be "in plain sight").
>
> >> And, it should be operable without requiring anything other
> >> than the typical parts of the human anatomy.  :>
>
> >> My first thought was a traditional pushbutton in a flexible
> >> rubber hood.  But, I suspect the Sun will eat the hell out
> >> of the plasticizers in the "rubber" in short order.
>
> >> I then thought of a magnet sliding in a channel passing a
> >> Hall effect device (i.e., put a spring behind the magnet).
> >> But, you'd need something (flexible) to keep the magnet
> >> "sled" from falling out of its channel, etc.
>
> >> Are there any other clever approaches that might work?
> >> Even "weatherproof" switches fail one or more of the
> >> above criteria...  :<

mike > Many crosswalk traffic lights have a "push for walk signal"
button.
mike > Go take a look at one.
mike > If you go at night...and take a screwdriver...and wear a
hoodie...

JKK > If you want one that bad, i will send you one free.
JKK > I know someone that has to throw them away
JKK > (in perfect working order).  This is strictly
JKK > onesie, for people i consider worthy, and on
JKK > request, no repeats.

There are a variety of those buttons, one of them
uses a rubber membrane that resembles inner tube
material but with fiber reinforcement and rigidity.
Behind it is a heavy duty push button so that
pressing the membrane pushes the button.

My favorite is one where it has a touch switch
with no moving button, but beeps and sends
one bright flash to an LED for feedback.

http://gadgets.boingboing.net/vka-walksigns-04-thumb-200x259.jpg

http://es.www.seeclickfix.com/files/0000/9647/xwalk.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_button



From: memristor on
Don Lancaster schrieb:
> On 5/4/2010 2:05 PM, D Yuniskis wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I need some sort of "button" (sensor?) that I can locate out
>> "in the elements" and use to activate the irrigation system.
>> I.e., "push this button to turn on the water supply".
>>
>> It need not be a traditional "button" (in the electrical sense).
>> E.g., a pressure sensitive pneumatic switch, a photoreflective
>> sensor, etc. would all provide the intended function. The
>> trick is finding something that will operate reliably and for
>> many years when exposed to sun, rain, ice, etc.
>>
>> Ideally, the thing will be cosmetically unassuming so you
>> don't notice it unless you go *looking* for it (despite the
>> fact that it will be "in plain sight").
>>
>> And, it should be operable without requiring anything other
>> than the typical parts of the human anatomy. :>
>>
>> My first thought was a traditional pushbutton in a flexible
>> rubber hood. But, I suspect the Sun will eat the hell out
>> of the plasticizers in the "rubber" in short order.
>>
>> I then thought of a magnet sliding in a channel passing a
>> Hall effect device (i.e., put a spring behind the magnet).
>> But, you'd need something (flexible) to keep the magnet
>> "sled" from falling out of its channel, etc.
>>
>> Are there any other clever approaches that might work?
>> Even "weatherproof" switches fail one or more of the
>> above criteria... :<
>
>
> Try your closest hot tub store.
>
>
>

A touch button could fit your needs. You don't even have to drill a hole
in the casing.

The technique uses is capacitive sensing. The drawback is, that it isn't
as simple as a mechanical button, because of the electronics involved.
From: JosephKK on
On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT), Greegor <greegor47(a)gmail.com>
wrote:

>On May 26, 11:08 pm, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 26 May 2010 12:53:33 -0700, mike <spam...(a)go.com> wrote:
>> >D Yuniskis wrote:
>> >> Hi,
>>
>> >> I need some sort of "button" (sensor?) that I can locate out
>> >> "in the elements" and use to activate the irrigation system.
>> >> I.e., "push this button to turn on the water supply".
>>
>> >> It need not be a traditional "button" (in the electrical sense).
>> >> E.g., a pressure sensitive pneumatic switch, a photoreflective
>> >> sensor, etc. would all provide the intended function.  The
>> >> trick is finding something that will operate reliably and for
>> >> many years when exposed to sun, rain, ice, etc.
>>
>> >> Ideally, the thing will be cosmetically unassuming so you
>> >> don't notice it unless you go *looking* for it (despite the
>> >> fact that it will be "in plain sight").
>>
>> >> And, it should be operable without requiring anything other
>> >> than the typical parts of the human anatomy.  :>
>>
>> >> My first thought was a traditional pushbutton in a flexible
>> >> rubber hood.  But, I suspect the Sun will eat the hell out
>> >> of the plasticizers in the "rubber" in short order.
>>
>> >> I then thought of a magnet sliding in a channel passing a
>> >> Hall effect device (i.e., put a spring behind the magnet).
>> >> But, you'd need something (flexible) to keep the magnet
>> >> "sled" from falling out of its channel, etc.
>>
>> >> Are there any other clever approaches that might work?
>> >> Even "weatherproof" switches fail one or more of the
>> >> above criteria...  :<
>
>mike > Many crosswalk traffic lights have a "push for walk signal"
>button.
>mike > Go take a look at one.
>mike > If you go at night...and take a screwdriver...and wear a
>hoodie...
>
>JKK > If you want one that bad, i will send you one free.
>JKK > I know someone that has to throw them away
>JKK > (in perfect working order).  This is strictly
>JKK > onesie, for people i consider worthy, and on
>JKK > request, no repeats.
>
>There are a variety of those buttons, one of them
>uses a rubber membrane that resembles inner tube
>material but with fiber reinforcement and rigidity.
>Behind it is a heavy duty push button so that
>pressing the membrane pushes the button.
>
>My favorite is one where it has a touch switch
>with no moving button, but beeps and sends
>one bright flash to an LED for feedback.
>
>http://gadgets.boingboing.net/vka-walksigns-04-thumb-200x259.jpg
>
>http://es.www.seeclickfix.com/files/0000/9647/xwalk.jpg
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Placebo_button
>
>
I doubt that i could get any like that.