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From: Kevin Miller on 4 Jan 2010 00:10
On 01/03/2010 02:44 PM, houghi wrote:
> Kevin Nathan wrote:
>> I am following several of them. Very knowledgeable people in them, but
>> don't ask a javascript question in the html group and so forth. Lurk a
>> bit in all of those groups and you will soon see on which ones you will
>> want to concentrate.
>
> I am in a php and a mysql group and if you dare ask the wrong question
> in the wrong group, people might come to your house and shoot you. Even
> if you are not sure wich of the two causes the problem. :-/
>
> houghi

So then I probably shouldn't mention vi or emacs either...

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From: Kevin Nathan on 4 Jan 2010 01:56
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:45:34 -0900
Kevin Miller <atftb2(a)alaska.net> wrote:

> To see it in action see http://www.southalaskabnbs.com.
>

Server not found
Firefox can't find the server at www.southalaskabnbs.com.

>
>> : Second, use a language like asp or php that understands
>> include.
>>
>> Assuming his server allows this....
>
>One one server that I'll be building and have full control that's not
>an issue. On my own page which is hosted by my ISP I don't know. I
>emailed support, but they never seem to respond. Maybe they don't know
>how to use email. If I don't hear from them in the next day or so I'll
>just call their 800 number.
>

Seriously consider looking at bluehost.com -- decent price, excellent
host, offers almost everything and you can even get a shell account!
Invaluable for what I need to do... :-)


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From: Kevin Nathan on 4 Jan 2010 01:59
On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 20:10:20 -0900
Kevin Miller <atftb2(a)alaska.net> wrote:

>So then I probably shouldn't mention vi or emacs either...
>

Actually, that wouldn't be a problem on most of them. The big thing
they really scream about is off-topic. If it's an html group then
*nothing* but html is valid fodder -- and so forth... :-)


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Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline)

Open standards. Open source. Open minds.
The command line is the front line.
Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-default
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From: Chris Cox on 4 Jan 2010 12:49
On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 21:17 -0900, Kevin Miller wrote:
> Been wanting to redo my vastly out of date web site for ages. One area
> that I want to change is the menu. Using a .css based menu is nice in
> that it works even for people running noscript plugins. But it's a pain
> to update on every page. A javascript menu can be updated in one spot
> and the change is global but may not work for everybody.
>
> If you have a website w/javascript, is this much of an issue? Or do you
> just blow off the "paranoid" amongst us?
>
> What other options are there?
>
> ...Kevin

Hi Kevin,
There are many CMS and/or wiki solutions out there that will allow
you to make dynamic updates easily, even programmatically.

I use PmWiki myself... but many others make this a snap as well.

One of my good friends is one of those "paranoid" users you mention.

Bet it's cold up there!

The http://www.ntlug.org site uses PmWiki. Let me know if you
want to make a quick change as a demo.



From: Kevin Miller on 4 Jan 2010 13:39
houghi wrote:
> Kevin Miller wrote:
>> One one server that I'll be building and have full control that's not an
>> issue. On my own page which is hosted by my ISP I don't know. I
>> emailed support, but they never seem to respond. Maybe they don't know
>> how to use email. If I don't hear from them in the next day or so I'll
>> just call their 800 number.
>
> You do not need their support. Just do `curl -I
> http://example.com/your/page/` and see what happens.

Learn something new every day! Looks like that's an option after all:

mis-mkm-lnx:/home/mkm# curl -I http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
HTTP/1.1 301 Moved Permanently
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:37:49 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.63 (FreeBSD) PHP/5.2.9 with Suhosin-Patch
mod_ldap_userdir/1.1.11 DAV/2
Location: http://www.alaska.net/~atftb/
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1

Thanks much!

....Kevin
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