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From: Kevin Miller on 5 Jan 2010 22:21
On 01/03/2010 09:56 PM, Kevin Nathan wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 2010 17:45:34 -0900
> Kevin Miller <atftb2(a)alaska.net> wrote:
>
>> To see it in action see http://www.southalaskabnbs.com.
>>
>
> Server not found
> Firefox can't find the server at www.southalaskabnbs.com.

Doh! Make that http://wwwsoutheastalaskabnbs.com - Sorry 'bout that.

>>
>>> : Second, use a language like asp or php that understands
>>> include.
>>>
>>> Assuming his server allows this....

In theory they do.

>> One one server that I'll be building and have full control that's not
>> an issue. On my own page which is hosted by my ISP I don't know. I
>> emailed support, but they never seem to respond. Maybe they don't know
>> how to use email. If I don't hear from them in the next day or so I'll
>> just call their 800 number.
>
> Seriously consider looking at bluehost.com -- decent price, excellent
> host, offers almost everything and you can even get a shell account!
> Invaluable for what I need to do... :-)

They look pretty good. No immediate plans to migrate my Dad's site but
if we decide to I'll keep that one in mind. For my own site, it's just
a 90's vintage vanity site w/some of my woodworking. Not worth spending
money on. Just someone place to share a bit...

....Kevin
--
Kevin Miller - http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
Juneau, Alaska
In a recent survey, 7 out of 10 hard drives preferred Linux
Registered Linux User No: 307357, http://counter.li.org
From: Kevin Miller on 6 Jan 2010 22:16
On 01/04/2010 08:49 AM, Chris Cox wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-01-01 at 21:17 -0900, Kevin Miller wrote:
>> Been wanting to redo my vastly out of date web site for ages. One area
>> that I want to change is the menu. Using a .css based menu is nice in
>> that it works even for people running noscript plugins. But it's a pain
>> to update on every page. A javascript menu can be updated in one spot
>> and the change is global but may not work for everybody.
>>
>> If you have a website w/javascript, is this much of an issue? Or do you
>> just blow off the "paranoid" amongst us?
>>
>> What other options are there?
>>
>> ...Kevin
>
> Hi Kevin,
> There are many CMS and/or wiki solutions out there that will allow
> you to make dynamic updates easily, even programmatically.
>
> I use PmWiki myself... but many others make this a snap as well.
>
> One of my good friends is one of those "paranoid" users you mention.
>
> Bet it's cold up there!

Well, colder that Texas. Snowed earlier, now it's raining. It's smack
dab in the middle where it's just yucky out. A bit warmer and it's OK.
A bit colder and you just bundle up a bit more and go have snow sport
fun. But right now it's that damp cold that you can't do anything fun
in. No matter. It'll go one way or the other soon enough.


> The http://www.ntlug.org site uses PmWiki. Let me know if you
> want to make a quick change as a demo.

I may take you up on that in the future. I hadn't really considered a
wiki because they all sorta look like wikis. The ntlug.org site doesn't
at all. Should have figured they're entirely configurable! That might
be a good fit for a project I hope to get to in the near future. As
long as it's not editable by all - if I can lock it down to only the
folks that I pre-approve then it may be just the ticket. Thanks. Now I
just need time to get to it. Too many irons in the fire!

....Kevin
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Kevin Miller - http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
Juneau, Alaska
In a recent survey, 7 out of 10 hard drives preferred Linux
Registered Linux User No: 307357, http://counter.li.org
From: jamm on 8 Jan 2010 20:55
Kevin Miller wrote:

> Been wanting to redo my vastly out of date web site for ages. One area
> that I want to change is the menu. Using a .css based menu is nice in
> that it works even for people running noscript plugins. But it's a pain
> to update on every page. A javascript menu can be updated in one spot
> and the change is global but may not work for everybody.
>
> If you have a website w/javascript, is this much of an issue? Or do you
> just blow off the "paranoid" amongst us?
>
> What other options are there?
>
> ...Kevin

I just did similar using Joomla. Its a full content management framework.
Maybe overkill for what you want, but I found that I could do alot of
professional looking work pretty quickly once I wrapped my brain around its
strange concepts of menus, articles, and modules.
From: JT on 9 Jan 2010 05:47
On 09/01/10 10:06, houghi wrote:
>
> The disadvantage is that you learn using Joomla and not learn to make a
> website.
>
<snip>
> houghi
>
:) Funny: if you learn using Joomla, you learn making a website (with
Joomla). So the contradiction puzzles me 'a bit'.

My experience is that Joomla is great for getting a semi-pro website
very quick - indeed after getting around the sometimes somewhat 'funny'
concepts.

But I do agree that having some elementary understanding of css (and
maybe even php) can help in getting a more tuned end result.


--
Kind regards, JT

From: Tim Douglass on 9 Jan 2010 14:07
On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:32:20 +0100, houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid>
wrote:

>JT wrote:
>> On 09/01/10 10:06, houghi wrote:
>>>
>>> The disadvantage is that you learn using Joomla and not learn to make a
>>> website.
>>>
>> <snip>
>>> houghi
>>>
>> :) Funny: if you learn using Joomla, you learn making a website (with
>> Joomla). So the contradiction puzzles me 'a bit'.
>
>Compare it with learning Excel and Word instead of using a spreadsheet
>and word processing. If you learn spreadsheets and word processing, you
>will be able to use any program after a very short bit If you learn
>Excel and Word, it will be very hard to switch.

If I have to learn Word and Excell I will pound my head with a rock
until the pain stops.

Tim Douglass

http://www.DouglassClan.com
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