From: Mike Rosenberg on
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> That isnot the full truth. I have lots of old WordPerfect files with the
> suffix .wps. But I also have some old Microsoft Works 2.x and 3.x files
> with the same suffix, and it is a real problem for those of us who have
> those old files. The '.wps' WordPerfect files are mostly made with
> WordPerfect Works 1.x and 2.x or WordPerfect 1.x, 2.x and 3.0 (Mac + Win
> ver.) and can be either a spreadsheet file or a mixed document file with
> tables and text.

Please site a source to support this contention about .wps files.

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From: David Empson on
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> David Empson wrote:
> > Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Dowop wrote:
> >>> I've received a .wps file. Text Edit says wrong format. Word (all
> >>> options) does't work properly. I've gone to Google and searched on
> >>> "convert .wps to Mac" . Some hits are shown, but I cannot find any Mac
> >>> application that will do this
> >>
> >> Its a Wordperfect file and DataViz (not cheap ) will convert it.
> >
> > It is a Microsoft Works document. (WordPerfect is ".wpd".)
> >
> > Dataviz's MacLinkPlus Deluxe may be able to convert it, but Richard
> > Maine's suggestion of zamzar.com seems a cheaper option. (Never tried
> > either of them with .wps files.)
>
> That isnot the full truth. I have lots of old WordPerfect files with the
> suffix .wps.

Maybe you do, if you saved them that way.

WordPerfect on Windows has used .wpd as its standard suffix from
somewhere around version 8 for Windows. I can't find a single reference
suggesting that .wps was ever used by WordPerfect as a standard
extension.

Old versions suggested using .wp, .wp4, .wp5, .wp6 or .wp7, but
DOS-based vesions didn't care what extension you used. I used
WordPerfect 5.1 and 6.0 extensively on DOS and I have lots of files from
that era with completely arbitrary suffixes (organised by subdirectory
so I know which application created them).

I can't find anything from a Google search that .wps has been used as
the standard extension for documents for anything other than Microsoft
Works or compatible products, plus a configuration file used by some MP3
players.

> But I also have some old Microsoft Works 2.x and 3.x files with the same
> suffix, and it is a real problem for those of us who have those old files.
> The '.wps' WordPerfect files are mostly made with WordPerfect Works 1.x
> and 2.x or WordPerfect 1.x, 2.x and 3.0 (Mac + Win ver.) and can be either
> a spreadsheet file or a mixed document file with tables and text.

I've never used the Mac version of WordPerfect, but I wouldn't expect it
to care about filename extensions unless saving files to exchange with
Windows versions. I wasn't aware of it supporting spreadsheets.

WordPerfect Works appears to be a DOS-era program which shouldn't care
about extensions either, but I suppose it might have used different
suffixes to identify a spreadsheet document.

> On my Windows XPPro I have both MSWorks 4,5 and the new 9.5, but none of
> these will open .wps files made with WPfct or WPfct Works. Corel changed
> the suffixes with the ver. 3.5.x which was the last version for Mac so
> files got the same suffixes as on the Windows versions of WordPerfect
> Office - and that to .wpd for docs, wps for spreadsheets (last ver. I've
> checked is ver. 9.x, haven't tried the Corel Office Suites).

In recent years (Corel era), the WordPerfect suite on Windows has
included Quattro Pro as its spreadsheet, and that uses a completely
different suffix (.qpw, I think).

> It is rather irritating that files from so different apps as WordPerfect
> and MSWorks can have the same suffixes.

True, in a more general sense.
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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

David Empson wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>> David Empson wrote:
>>> Phillip Jones <pjones1(a)kimbanet.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dowop wrote:
>>>>> I've received a .wps file. Text Edit says wrong format. Word (all
>>>>> options) does't work properly. I've gone to Google and searched on
>>>>> "convert .wps to Mac" . Some hits are shown, but I cannot find any Mac
>>>>> application that will do this
>>>> Its a Wordperfect file and DataViz (not cheap ) will convert it.
>>> It is a Microsoft Works document. (WordPerfect is ".wpd".)
>>>
>>> Dataviz's MacLinkPlus Deluxe may be able to convert it, but Richard
>>> Maine's suggestion of zamzar.com seems a cheaper option. (Never tried
>>> either of them with .wps files.)
>> That isnot the full truth. I have lots of old WordPerfect files with the
>> suffix .wps.
>
> Maybe you do, if you saved them that way.

Nope, WordPerfect 1.x, 2.x, 2.5.x and 3.0.x for the Mac cannot save as
MSWks files - only .txt, .wps, .wp and .rtf. Ver. 3,5 can save into .dox
as well...

> WordPerfect on Windows has used .wpd as its standard suffix from
> somewhere around version 8 for Windows. I can't find a single reference
> suggesting that .wps was ever used by WordPerfect as a standard
> extension.
>
> Old versions suggested using .wp, .wp4, .wp5, .wp6 or .wp7, but
> DOS-based vesions didn't care what extension you used. I used
> WordPerfect 5.1 and 6.0 extensively on DOS and I have lots of files from
> that era with completely arbitrary suffixes (organised by subdirectory
> so I know which application created them).
>
> I can't find anything from a Google search that .wps has been used as
> the standard extension for documents for anything other than Microsoft
> Works or compatible products, plus a configuration file used by some MP3
> players.

I'm not talking about the Windows versions, but about the Mac versions
of WordPerfect. And it's here the problems occor. If they'd used the
same suffixes on both platforms, there wouldn't be any problem opening
these files.

>> But I also have some old Microsoft Works 2.x and 3.x files with the same
>> suffix, and it is a real problem for those of us who have those old files.
>> The '.wps' WordPerfect files are mostly made with WordPerfect Works 1.x
>> and 2.x or WordPerfect 1.x, 2.x and 3.0 (Mac + Win ver.) and can be either
>> a spreadsheet file or a mixed document file with tables and text.
>
> I've never used the Mac version of WordPerfect, but I wouldn't expect it
> to care about filename extensions unless saving files to exchange with
> Windows versions. I wasn't aware of it supporting spreadsheets.

The spreadsheet support is through a plug-in/extension. - If I recall
right made in the series of 'John's Wordperfect extensions', which maybe
still is available through InfoMac. - You could also change both type &
creator using BBEdit/BBEdit Lite, which sometimes could be very valuable
if you had an older version of WPfct and got newer files. - OK,
formatting is lost doing this.

> WordPerfect Works appears to be a DOS-era program which shouldn't care
> about extensions either, but I suppose it might have used different
> suffixes to identify a spreadsheet document.

I'm talking about the WordPerfect Works for Mac - not Windows. The
latest ver. for Mac is the ver. 2.1 release 3 which I have in both
USEnglish and Danish. - It works just like MSWKS with a textprocessor,
spreadsheet and a database. It was designed originally for Mac System
6.x and 7.x, but works fine through OS 9.0.4. Running it on later
classic Mac systems make the app very unstable - unless it gets +60mb of
memory in min. size and 125mb in wanted size, - so here I instead mostly
use the WordPerfect 3.5.3 (latest Mac ver.). It cannot open .wps files
unless you have the mentioned plug-in/extension.

MSWorks 4.0 can open these WordPerfect files, if you have installed
MacLinkPlus 8.6i extension set for MSWKS. MLP 8.6i was a free add-on
with Mac System 7.6.1 for PowerBooks. I still have these original CDs
and have copied the extension set onto my OS 9.2.2 machine running MLP
13.003b (latest classic MLP). Both converters for WordPerfect Mac
versions and WordPerfect Works Mac + Win versions were cancelled with
MLP 9.7.1 (I have all MLP ver. from 8.0i through 13.0 and have truly
upgraded each time a new version was out). - By having kept these
'oldies' I've been able to help quite many by opening their old files so
they could be saved into other more reader friendly formats like .doc,
.txt, .rtf etc..

>> On my Windows XPPro I have both MSWorks 4,5 and the new 9.5, but none of
>> these will open .wps files made with WPfct or WPfct Works. Corel changed
>> the suffixes with the ver. 3.5.x which was the last version for Mac so
>> files got the same suffixes as on the Windows versions of WordPerfect
>> Office - and that to .wpd for docs, wps for spreadsheets (last ver. I've
>> checked is ver. 9.x, haven't tried the Corel Office Suites).
>
> In recent years (Corel era), the WordPerfect suite on Windows has
> included Quattro Pro as its spreadsheet, and that uses a completely
> different suffix (.qpw, I think).

That's right. - If I'm right it came with the WordPerfect Office 9.x. -
Have this somewhere around, but it doesn't work too well on XPPro. -
Infact I'm looking for a Corel Office ver. X1, X2, X3 or X4, which will
suite my purposes. I sure find the Corel products far much better and
more reliable than the MSOffice solutions for Windows...

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: Mike Rosenberg on
Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:

> David Empson wrote:
>
> > I can't find anything from a Google search that .wps has been used as
> > the standard extension for documents for anything other than Microsoft
> > Works or compatible products, plus a configuration file used by some MP3
> > players.
>
> I'm not talking about the Windows versions, but about the Mac versions
> of WordPerfect.

I just ran WordPerfect 3.5e for Macintosh to check this out, in Classic
on an iBook G4, and it does not put _ANY_ suffix on file names. I tried
saving as all supported formats for Windows versions and prior Mac
versions, and in no case did it include a suffix. If you really do have
WordPerfect files with a .wps suffix, whomever created them had to have
typed it in manually.

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From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

Mike Rosenberg wrote:
> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>> David Empson wrote:
>>> I can't find anything from a Google search that .wps has been used as
>>> the standard extension for documents for anything other than Microsoft
>>> Works or compatible products, plus a configuration file used by some MP3
>>> players.
>> I'm not talking about the Windows versions, but about the Mac versions
>> of WordPerfect.
>
> I just ran WordPerfect 3.5e for Macintosh to check this out, in Classic
> on an iBook G4, and it does not put _ANY_ suffix on file names. I tried
> saving as all supported formats for Windows versions and prior Mac
> versions, and in no case did it include a suffix. If you really do have
> WordPerfect files with a .wps suffix, whomever created them had to have
> typed it in manually.

The WordPerfect 3.5E (3.5 Extended) was a free limited edition which
Corel gave away to old 3.0 users and to everyone who'd like to have it
the day they decided to cancel any further developing of the Mac
version. I have and use the commercial vers. WordPerfect 3.0DK/US and
3.5.3US + WordPerfect Works 2.1US which aren't limited in any case like
the ver. 3.5E.

And sure I donot change or add any other suffixes to anything since that
can easily corrupt files, if you try to open these in other text
processing apps!

Cheers, Erik Richard

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