From: Mike Rosenberg on 24 Jun 2010 08:27 Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > The WordPerfect 3.5E (3.5 Extended) was a free limited edition which > Corel gave away to old 3.0 users and to everyone who'd like to have it > the day they decided to cancel any further developing of the Mac > version. I have and use the commercial vers. WordPerfect 3.0DK/US and > 3.5.3US + WordPerfect Works 2.1US which aren't limited in any case like > the ver. 3.5E. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordperfect Can you find a single reference, just one, SOMEWHERE, that supports your claims? The one bit of fact inserted within the above paragraph is that Corel, did, indeed, start giving away WP 3.5e after it ceased Macintosh development. However, versions 3.1 and then 3.5 had previously been released (in 1994 and 1995, respectively) prior to WordPerfect's acquisition by Corel (February, 1996). Version 3.5e was an UPGRADE to 3.5. Not only was it NOT limited in any way, it included bug fixes and enhancements over 3.5. > And sure I donot change or add any other suffixes to anything since that > can easily corrupt files, if you try to open these in other text > processing apps! Well, the Mac versions surely did not add them, so some human intervention occurred. This was the 1990s. Mac programs, as a rule, did not use PC-like extensions. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Richard Maine on 24 Jun 2010 12:21 Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > I still guarantee you that the .wps is/was used by Corel WordPerfect as > well as the older version of both Word Perfect and WordPerfect Works on > the Mac! Not to get in the middle of an argument (I wouldn't want to do so, and I don't recall enough about WordPerfect to know), and I suppose it won't keep people from arguing anyway, but... Note that for his particular file that was in question, rather than for some theoretical file that might be hypothesized about, the OP verified nearly 4 days ago that the suggestion to use zamzar to convert it from MS Works format worked. If this were a court case, it would have been dismissed as being moot (i.e. the case is already resolved for other reasons, so there is no point in continuing the case). I suppose that kind of thing has never stopped a vigorous (and the language of the prior post certainly counts as "vigorous") usenet debate. -- Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience; email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment. domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on 24 Jun 2010 15:15 Richard Maine wrote: > Erik Richard Sørensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: >> I still guarantee you that the .wps is/was used by Corel WordPerfect as >> well as the older version of both Word Perfect and WordPerfect Works on >> the Mac! > > Not to get in the middle of an argument (I wouldn't want to do so, and I > don't recall enough about WordPerfect to know), and I suppose it won't > keep people from arguing anyway, but... > > Note that for his particular file that was in question, rather than for > some theoretical file that might be hypothesized about, the OP verified > nearly 4 days ago that the suggestion to use zamzar to convert it from > MS Works format worked. > > If this were a court case, it would have been dismissed as being moot > (i.e. the case is already resolved for other reasons, so there is no > point in continuing the case). I suppose that kind of thing has never > stopped a vigorous (and the language of the prior post certainly counts > as "vigorous") usenet debate. Right so, but what I'm arging about is that WordPerfect _as_ well as the MSWorks did use the same extension/suffix. And that it can be quite a lot frustrating that the MS team totally ignores some other companies rights here, since WordPerfect existed long, long time before any version of any word processor product from MS. But OK, it's wellknown that MS has both borrowed and stolen where they could right to the limit and sometimes also over the limit of fair product development. And it's also wellknown that they claim to be in their rights to do so, because there are no certified suffix standard for any text- or wordprocessor application. Cheers, Erik Richard -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Erik Richard Sørensen, Member of ADC, <mac-manNOSP(a)Mstofanet.dk> NisusWriter - The Future In Multilingual Text Processing - www.nisus.com OpenOffice.org - The Modern Productivity Solution - www.openoffice.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: Mike Rosenberg on 24 Jun 2010 15:45 Erik Richard S�rensen <NOSPAM(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote: > Right so, but what I'm arging about is that WordPerfect _as_ well as the > MSWorks did use the same extension/suffix. Yes, you're arguing, but, as is your habit over the years, you're not backing up your argument. Why is it that no one but you has ever seen the .wps extension on a WordPerfect document? Why is it that no one, including you, is able to find any evidence to support this claim? Why do you keep doing this over and over again year after year? > And that it can be quite a > lot frustrating that the MS team totally ignores some other companies > rights here, since WordPerfect existed long, long time before any > version of any word processor product from MS. Previously in this thread _YOU_ said that the .wps suffix was only used by Mac versions of WordPerfect, not by DOS or WIndows versions. WordPerfect 1.0 for Macintosh was released in 1988. Microsoft Word 1 for Macintosh was released in 1985, and 2.0 followed in 1987. Now, WordPerfect for DOS did appear well before MS Word for DOS. However, you made it clear in that previous post that the PC versions didn't use the .wps suffix. -- Favorite yoga position: Rosh hashavasana, the high holy pose Mac and geek T-shirts & gifts <http://designsbymike.net/shop/mac.cgi> Prius shirts/bumper stickers <http://designsbymike.net/shop/prius.cgi>
From: Paul Sture on 25 Jun 2010 19:05
In article <1jkkl4t.enh6af1mckfqjN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > In recent years (Corel era), the WordPerfect suite on Windows has > included Quattro Pro as its spreadsheet, and that uses a completely > different suffix (.qpw, I think). I got the WordPerfect suite for Windows bundled with a PC I bought in 1999. Prior to that I had bought Quattro Pro as a standalone product from Borland and found it a lot more intuitive to use than other spreadsheet products. IIRC it was the first app I used which used right click for contextual menus. It also had the ability to pivot tables back in the mid 1990s (something that Numbers still hasn't got). ..qpw does sound right. -- Paul Sture |