What is the Aether?
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From: Florian on 7 Jun 2007 13:55 Bilge <dubious(a)radioactivex.sz> wrote: > Water is a fluid and air is a mixture of gases. Both are > ``systematically attracted by a mass,'' yet we see relative > movement called ocean currents and wind. Water and air are already on the Earth. If you put water in space close to the earth, without initial velocity, it will flow toward the earth. -- Florian "Tout est au mieux dans le meilleur des mondes possibles" Voltaire vs Leibniz (1-0)
From: Greg Neill on 7 Jun 2007 15:02 "Florian" <firstname(a)lastname.net> wrote in message news:1hzc2vn.52lczxybhjjmN%firstname(a)lastname.net... > Greg Neill <gneillREM(a)OVEsympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > You would never see a relative movement of the earth through ether if > > > the ether is a fluid/gas systematically attracted by a mass. > > > > I don't see how that's possible. What do you mean by > > "systematically attracted"? > > If any mass attracts ether, then the Earth would attract ethet, and the > ether flow would be perpendicular to the earth surface. right? > > > If it's a flow due to attraction, wouldn't the flow rate be greater > > heading into the 'wind' then away from it? > > That's right. The flow should be stronger while you approach the surface > of the Earth. Well, that's just what the Michelson Morely experiment *didn't* find. No aether wind.
From: Florian on 7 Jun 2007 18:24 Greg Neill <gneillREM(a)OVEsympatico.ca> wrote: > > That's right. The flow should be stronger while you approach the surface > > of the Earth. > > Well, that's just what the Michelson Morely experiment > *didn't* find. No aether wind. The MMX was designed to measure an aether wind parallel to the surface of the earth, not perpendicular to it. You need one vertical arm and one horizontal arm to measure a perpendicular flow. I've never seen that kind of set up. Still looking for one. -- Florian "Tout est au mieux dans le meilleur des mondes possibles" Voltaire vs Leibniz (1-0)
From: Greg Neill on 7 Jun 2007 18:37 "Florian" <firstname(a)lastname.net> wrote in message news:1hzd4x5.12m6xyu1wz5igqN%firstname(a)lastname.net... > Greg Neill <gneillREM(a)OVEsympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > That's right. The flow should be stronger while you approach the surface > > > of the Earth. > > > > Well, that's just what the Michelson Morely experiment > > *didn't* find. No aether wind. > > The MMX was designed to measure an aether wind parallel to the surface > of the earth, not perpendicular to it. > You need one vertical arm and one horizontal arm to measure a > perpendicular flow. I've never seen that kind of set up. > Still looking for one. In order for there to be no* sideways drift, the direction of flow would have to be always radial no matter that the Earth is moving through space (and constantly changing direction to boot). That would imply that the entire expanse of the aether in space is pinned to the motion of the Earth. That is rather implausible.
From: Florian on 8 Jun 2007 17:22
Greg Neill <gneillREM(a)OVEsympatico.ca> wrote: > In order for there to be no* sideways drift, the > direction of flow would have to be always radial > no matter that the Earth is moving through space > (and constantly changing direction to boot). Yes and it would be the case If ether is attracted by any mass. May be a scheme would help: http://nachon.free.fr/asp-ether.png The ether flow would always be radial to any mass. -- Florian "Tout est au mieux dans le meilleur des mondes possibles" Voltaire vs Leibniz (1-0) |