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From: kenseto on 22 Feb 2010 14:58 On Feb 22, 10:11 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 22, 9:30 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:56 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 4:12 am, funkenstein <luke.s...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 17, 3:20 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > Aether (the only one that survives experiment) has no observables, no > > > > > way to disprove it. > > > > > > David A. Smith > > > > > I saw a Frank Wilcek lecture recently which was quite good. > > > > > He talked at length about the physics going on in vacuum. > > > > > He proposes that we don't talk about "the aether" but instead use "the > > > > grid". > > > > > What do you think? > > > > Grid doesn't cut it. > > > Hey the grid is material of sort. In my theory it is called the E- > > Matrix. It is a perfect description of the modern aether. > > If it's the prefect description of the modern aether then call it > aether. I called my aether the E-Matrix. You can call your aether whatever you want. > > > > > It gives > > rise to a new theory of relativity called IRT and a new theory of > > gravity called DTG.http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > > Ken Seto > > > > The aether is physical and it is a matter of the > > > properties we choose to apply to it. > > > > In AD, the aether is a physical material with mass. Aether is > > > displaced by matter. Matter and aether are different states of the > > > same material. Aether is matter in its uncompressed state.- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
From: mpc755 on 22 Feb 2010 15:11 On Feb 22, 2:58 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > On Feb 22, 10:11 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 9:30 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 4:56 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:12 am, funkenstein <luke.s...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 17, 3:20 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Aether (the only one that survives experiment) has no observables, no > > > > > > way to disprove it. > > > > > > > David A. Smith > > > > > > I saw a Frank Wilcek lecture recently which was quite good. > > > > > > He talked at length about the physics going on in vacuum. > > > > > > He proposes that we don't talk about "the aether" but instead use "the > > > > > grid". > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > Grid doesn't cut it. > > > > Hey the grid is material of sort. In my theory it is called the E- > > > Matrix. It is a perfect description of the modern aether. > > > If it's the prefect description of the modern aether then call it > > aether. > > I called my aether the E-Matrix. You can call your aether whatever you > want. > I call the aether, aether. > > > > > It gives > > > rise to a new theory of relativity called IRT and a new theory of > > > gravity called DTG.http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > > > Ken Seto > > > > > The aether is physical and it is a matter of the > > > > properties we choose to apply to it. > > > > > In AD, the aether is a physical material with mass. Aether is > > > > displaced by matter. Matter and aether are different states of the > > > > same material. Aether is matter in its uncompressed state.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > >
From: BURT on 22 Feb 2010 15:20 On Feb 22, 12:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 22, 2:58 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 10:11 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 9:30 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:56 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:12 am, funkenstein <luke.s...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 3:20 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Aether (the only one that survives experiment) has no observables, no > > > > > > > way to disprove it. > > > > > > > > David A. Smith > > > > > > > I saw a Frank Wilcek lecture recently which was quite good. > > > > > > > He talked at length about the physics going on in vacuum. > > > > > > > He proposes that we don't talk about "the aether" but instead use "the > > > > > > grid". > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > Grid doesn't cut it. > > > > > Hey the grid is material of sort. In my theory it is called the E- > > > > Matrix. It is a perfect description of the modern aether. > > > > If it's the prefect description of the modern aether then call it > > > aether. > > > I called my aether the E-Matrix. You can call your aether whatever you > > want. > > I call the aether, aether. > > > > > > > > > It gives > > > > rise to a new theory of relativity called IRT and a new theory of > > > > gravity called DTG.http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > > > > Ken Seto > > > > > > The aether is physical and it is a matter of the > > > > > properties we choose to apply to it. > > > > > > In AD, the aether is a physical material with mass. Aether is > > > > > displaced by matter. Matter and aether are different states of the > > > > > same material. Aether is matter in its uncompressed state.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Sometimes more than one word gives the bigger meaning. The grid of the infinitely small is also accurate and important. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 22 Feb 2010 15:27 On Feb 22, 3:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 22, 12:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 2:58 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 10:11 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 9:30 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:56 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:12 am, funkenstein <luke.s...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 3:20 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Aether (the only one that survives experiment) has no observables, no > > > > > > > > way to disprove it. > > > > > > > > > David A. Smith > > > > > > > > I saw a Frank Wilcek lecture recently which was quite good. > > > > > > > > He talked at length about the physics going on in vacuum. > > > > > > > > He proposes that we don't talk about "the aether" but instead use "the > > > > > > > grid". > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > Grid doesn't cut it. > > > > > > Hey the grid is material of sort. In my theory it is called the E- > > > > > Matrix. It is a perfect description of the modern aether. > > > > > If it's the prefect description of the modern aether then call it > > > > aether. > > > > I called my aether the E-Matrix. You can call your aether whatever you > > > want. > > > I call the aether, aether. > > > > > > It gives > > > > > rise to a new theory of relativity called IRT and a new theory of > > > > > gravity called DTG.http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > > > > > Ken Seto > > > > > > > The aether is physical and it is a matter of the > > > > > > properties we choose to apply to it. > > > > > > > In AD, the aether is a physical material with mass. Aether is > > > > > > displaced by matter. Matter and aether are different states of the > > > > > > same material. Aether is matter in its uncompressed state.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Sometimes more than one word gives the bigger meaning. The grid of the > infinitely small is also accurate and important. > > Mitch Raemsch Call the aether, aether, and then decide what properties you want to assign to it, or what you are describing is not the aether. If you are describing quantum foam then you are describing quantum foam. If you are describing 'empty' space as a grid and you label the empty space some sort of 'grid' then you are describing 'empty' space as a grid. If you want to discuss the aether in terms of a grid then that is something else entirely. But if you are describing the aether then call it aether.
From: mpc755 on 22 Feb 2010 15:27
On Feb 22, 3:20 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 22, 12:11 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 2:58 pm, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 22, 10:11 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 22, 9:30 am, kenseto <kens...(a)erinet.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:56 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 22, 4:12 am, funkenstein <luke.s...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Feb 17, 3:20 pm, dlzc <dl...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Feb 16, 9:42 pm, BURT <macromi...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Aether (the only one that survives experiment) has no observables, no > > > > > > > > way to disprove it. > > > > > > > > > David A. Smith > > > > > > > > I saw a Frank Wilcek lecture recently which was quite good. > > > > > > > > He talked at length about the physics going on in vacuum. > > > > > > > > He proposes that we don't talk about "the aether" but instead use "the > > > > > > > grid". > > > > > > > > What do you think? > > > > > > > Grid doesn't cut it. > > > > > > Hey the grid is material of sort. In my theory it is called the E- > > > > > Matrix. It is a perfect description of the modern aether. > > > > > If it's the prefect description of the modern aether then call it > > > > aether. > > > > I called my aether the E-Matrix. You can call your aether whatever you > > > want. > > > I call the aether, aether. > > > > > > It gives > > > > > rise to a new theory of relativity called IRT and a new theory of > > > > > gravity called DTG.http://www.modelmechanics.org/2008irt.dtg.pdf > > > > > > Ken Seto > > > > > > > The aether is physical and it is a matter of the > > > > > > properties we choose to apply to it. > > > > > > > In AD, the aether is a physical material with mass. Aether is > > > > > > displaced by matter. Matter and aether are different states of the > > > > > > same material. Aether is matter in its uncompressed state.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Sometimes more than one word gives the bigger meaning. The grid of the > infinitely small is also accurate and important. > > Mitch Raemsch Call the aether, aether, and then decide what properties you want to assign to it, or what you are describing is not the aether. If you are describing quantum foam then you are describing quantum foam. If you are describing 'empty' space as a grid and you label the empty space some sort of 'grid' then you are describing 'empty' space as a grid. If you want to discuss the aether in terms of a grid then that is something else entirely. But if you are describing the aether then call it aether. |