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From: troll on 16 Apr 2010 07:18 Gradually, I have started getting the idea that goodness has no real meaning at all. Entropy and information has a clear definition in physics and mathematics, but goodness is just a nice sounding word and no one can ever agree on what it actually means. Recently, however, I have started to wonder whether truth has any real meaning. Is there a mathematical or physical definition of truth, and if so what is it? I get the idea that I am missing something simple, but I am not sure what it is. What is the definition of truth in physics and mathematics? At least a very simple web search ends up getting choked with meaningless drivel from philosophers.
From: JohnF on 16 Apr 2010 07:55 In sci.physics troll <trolidous(a)go.com> wrote: > Is there a mathematical or physical definition of truth, > and if so what is it? Yes (mathematical). As for what it is, highly recommended (by me)... Philosophy of Logic, 2nd edition W.V. Quine Harvard University Press, 1986 ISBN 0-674-66563-5 -- John Forkosh ( mailto: j(a)f.com where j=john and f=forkosh )
From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on 16 Apr 2010 08:31 On 16/04/2010 12:18, troll wrote: > > Gradually, I have started getting the idea that goodness > has no real meaning at all. Entropy and information > has a clear definition in physics and mathematics, but > goodness is just a nice sounding word and no one > can ever agree on what it actually means. > > Recently, however, I have started to wonder whether > truth has any real meaning. Is there a mathematical > or physical definition of truth, and if so what is it? > > I get the idea that I am missing something simple, > but I am not sure what it is. What is the definition > of truth in physics and mathematics? At least a > very simple web search ends up getting choked > with meaningless drivel from philosophers. > Truth is the degree of accuracy of mapping one state to another. -- Dirk http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Ludovicus on 16 Apr 2010 08:41 On Apr 16, 7:18 am, troll <trolid...(a)go.com> wrote: >What is truth? If Christ was unable to answer when Pilate questioned him, how you dare to inquire that?
From: Link on 16 Apr 2010 08:56
On Apr 16, 5:41 am, Ludovicus <luir...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Apr 16, 7:18 am, troll <trolid...(a)go.com> wrote: > > >What is truth? > > If Christ was unable to answer when > Pilate questioned him, how you dare > to inquire that? N N N H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C C CCC NHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHCCCCCCCCCC CCCCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHN C C C C C C C C C C H H H H H H H H H H H H H H H N |