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From: David Brown on 21 Oct 2009 07:54 Ant wrote: > On 10/20/2009 2:28 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: > >> So can any Win 2K. >> >>> Still weird to pull it off. >> >> Nope, hardly anyone uses it anymore. > > I am still surprised MS still supports it and IE6 after all these years. > I have a few clients who still use 2000 SP4. Hey, it's better than > crashy 9x and Me! > MS don't support W2K (don't know about IE6 - I almost never use IE). There are not many still using W2K, but some do, for several reasons. One is that if you have a working W2K machine, there is almost nothing to be gained (and plenty to lose) by moving it to a newer windows version. Another reason is that W2K can easily and quickly be installed without any activation (you still need a license, of course). Combined with lighter resource requirements than XP, this makes it very convenient for virtual machines. A lot of people still use IE6 - I think it was about 20% last time I looked at one of these browser statistics reports.
From: Ant on 21 Oct 2009 09:18 On 10/20/2009 10:29 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: > Ant wrote >> Rod Speed wrote >>> Ant wrote > >>>>>> But I can format as FAT32 to use all the disk space >>>>>> on other computers like Mac, Linux, etc. right? > >>>>> You can. I am not sure how to do this with Windows, but Linux >>>>> mkdosfs with option -F32 (use FAT32) will happily format large >>>>> drives as well and they work under Windows. > >>>> Looks like format command with its /FS:FAT32 according >>>> to XP Pro. SP2's format command line help: > >>> XP wont format partitions bigger than 32GB FAT32. >>> Its happy to use them, just wont format them FAT32. > >> What about other Windows like 7, Vista, > > Those are the same as XP in that regard. > >> 9x, etc.? > > 9x will do it fine. So will DOS. Interesting. Why did MS do that? Force users to use NTFS? I guess I would have to boot up a Windows 98 SE/Me in VMware. Pure DOS won't work since lack of USB driver for the drive. >> If not, then can any Windows software do it or do I have to do it via Linux/UNIX? > > You can also use plenty of Win apps to do it too. Like which ones (freewares)? Old commercial PartitionMagic v8 is OK? >>> Thats not true of Linux anymore. > >> Oh good. I remember NTFS was really bad under Linux. > > It hasnt been that for a long time now, particularly with reads. I was referring to the write part. Read was fine back then. -- "Ants can attack with a grain of rice." --a Malagasy Proverb /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Ant on 21 Oct 2009 09:27 On 10/20/2009 10:34 PM PT, Rod Speed typed: >>> So can any Win 2K. > >>>> Still weird to pull it off. > >>> Nope, hardly anyone uses it anymore. > >> I am still surprised MS still supports it > > They dont actually. Um, they are still releasing updates for both 2K Pro. and IE6. See these two links/URLs: 1. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=14&y=17&p1=3071 2. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 >> and IE6 after all these years. I have a few clients who still use 2000 SP4. > > Yeah, there's always a few dinosaurs around. And it still works great for old stuff. >> Hey, it's better than crashy 9x and Me! > > Not necessarily, depends on what you want to do. Oh come on. NT OS' are so much stable and better. 9x and Me always crashes. >> Wow. I thought all Seagate HDDs were five years for warranty. > > Nar not their externals, and not even all their internals either now, they've > gone back to 3 years for some of them, now that they have absorbed Maxtor. Damnit! Who is still doing five years? Samsung only? Does Samsung sell 2.5" external HDDs. I remmeber you or someone mentioning them doing good in the past. >> I guess it's only for internal HDDs. :( > > Not anymore. :( >> Do these external HDDs last long? > > The 2.5" drives do. Its hard to drop them etc tho. They dont like being dropped onto a hard floor. Cool. -- "To conquer the world, we must be as meticulous and calculating as a colony of ants on the march." --Julius Caesar /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: Ant on 21 Oct 2009 09:30 On 10/21/2009 4:54 AM PT, David Brown typed: > MS don't support W2K (don't know about IE6 - I almost never use IE). Um, they are still releasing updates for both 2K Pro. and IE6. See these two links/URLs: 1. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=14&y=17&p1=3071 2. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 In fact, I got updates through MS Updates (also can be downloaded through Automatic Updates) last week's Tuesday! > There are not many still using W2K, but some do, for several reasons. > One is that if you have a working W2K machine, there is almost nothing > to be gained (and plenty to lose) by moving it to a newer windows version. Yep for old school softwares and basic stuff that don't require latest stuff. > Another reason is that W2K can easily and quickly be installed without > any activation (you still need a license, of course). Combined with > lighter resource requirements than XP, this makes it very convenient for > virtual machines. YES! Another reason. Also, dang fast. > A lot of people still use IE6 - I think it was about 20% last time I > looked at one of these browser statistics reports. Yeah. MS doesn't allow IE7 and higher in 2K either. So it is either IE6 or third party Web browsers. -- "Ants are so much like human beings as to be an embarrassment. They farm fungi, raise aphids as livestock, launch armies into wars, use chemical sprays to alarm and confuse enemies, capture slaves. The families of weaver ants engage in child labor, holding their larvae like shuttles to spin out the thread that sews the leaves together for their fungus gardens. They exchange information ceaselessly. They do everything but watch television." --Lewis Thomas /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| | Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: philpi(a)earthlink.netANT ( ) or ANTant(a)zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer.
From: David Brown on 21 Oct 2009 10:25
Ant wrote: > On 10/21/2009 4:54 AM PT, David Brown typed: > >> MS don't support W2K (don't know about IE6 - I almost never use IE). > > Um, they are still releasing updates for both 2K Pro. and IE6. See these > two links/URLs: > 1. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN=en-us&x=14&y=17&p1=3071 > 2. http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?p1=3071 > > In fact, I got updates through MS Updates (also can be downloaded > through Automatic Updates) last week's Tuesday! > I thought W2K support had been dropped. Perhaps they still make the odd fix, but don't provide active support (by telephone or email). They also provide support for server and embedded versions for longer than for desktop versions. > >> There are not many still using W2K, but some do, for several reasons. >> One is that if you have a working W2K machine, there is almost nothing >> to be gained (and plenty to lose) by moving it to a newer windows >> version. > > Yep for old school softwares and basic stuff that don't require latest > stuff. > It's not just "basic" stuff - a great deal of windows software runs fine on W2K. > >> Another reason is that W2K can easily and quickly be installed without >> any activation (you still need a license, of course). Combined with >> lighter resource requirements than XP, this makes it very convenient >> for virtual machines. > > YES! Another reason. Also, dang fast. > > >> A lot of people still use IE6 - I think it was about 20% last time I >> looked at one of these browser statistics reports. > > Yeah. MS doesn't allow IE7 and higher in 2K either. So it is either IE6 > or third party Web browsers. I don't use intentionally use IE except for a couple of websites once or twice a year. Our company has banned IE for general usage for security reasons - IE is only allowed for a few specific sites (such as one retarded bank site). I don't think there was a single complaint or objection, and once people had tried Firefox with Adblock, few use anything else at home either. |