From: Woody on
Richard Tobin <richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

> In article
> <740598184297852218.150333usenet-alienrat.co.uk(a)news.individual.net>,
> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >> The existence of Arial - along with the stupidity of funding bodies -
> >> has contributed to the wasting of hundreds of hours of work in this
> >> department, and probably tens of thousands throughout British
> >> universities.
>
> >Why?
>
> Because certain funding bodies have an automated system that rejects
> grant applications if the name of any font in the PDF file isn't
> "Arial", and generating such a file with the tools we normally use is
> next to impossible. Something like a table included from a
> per-existing document will cause it to be rejected.

Hmm, that borders on the retarded then.

Still, when dealing with a retarded system it is generally easy enough
to put in place a retarded process that comes out with the right result.

If nothing else, just get a tool to replace all the fonts in your pdfs
for arial.

> I imagine that if you managed to construct a version of Comic Sans
> with the name "Arial", it would go straight through without comment.


Well, if you used helvetica or courier, you could end up with no font
being listed by name as they could be refered to by number.

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Bruce Horrocks on
On 11/06/2010 00:38, Woody wrote:
> Richard Tobin<richard(a)cogsci.ed.ac.uk> wrote:

>> Because certain funding bodies have an automated system that rejects
>> grant applications if the name of any font in the PDF file isn't
>> "Arial", and generating such a file with the tools we normally use is
>> next to impossible. Something like a table included from a
>> per-existing document will cause it to be rejected.
>
> Hmm, that borders on the retarded then.

Requiring submissions as PDFs but then not allowing the use of the
'standard fonts' is truly a decision of the ignorant.

>
> Still, when dealing with a retarded system it is generally easy enough
> to put in place a retarded process that comes out with the right result.
>
> If nothing else, just get a tool to replace all the fonts in your pdfs
> for arial.

That won't work because the justification would be all wrong. It would
pass the automated system but annoy the reviewers deciding who gets a
grant and who doesn't.

What would work is to fully embed all fonts (including the standard
fonts such as Helvetica) and then change the font name to Arial. That
way you could have any font you wanted and it would pass. The reviewers
might even twig and give the submission extra credit for being clever. :-)

>> I imagine that if you managed to construct a version of Comic Sans
>> with the name "Arial", it would go straight through without comment.

It would be a breach of copyrights but should be pretty trivial to do.


--
Bruce Horrocks
Surrey
England
(bruce at scorecrow dot com)
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