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From: John on 19 Jan 2010 17:41 Windows built in firewall is good enough provided that you keep your Windows security updates up to date. You might also want to disable file and printer sharing. "Clueless in Seattle" <CluelessinSeattle(a)discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:8F3A905E-DD83-4CA6-9409-52C6D1FEBDC6(a)microsoft.com... > Well, it looks like manually disabling WEP was the trick to getting into > the > library's Wi-Fi. > > So is there anyway to protect my computer from intrusion while I'm online > here in the library? >
From: Clueless in Seattle on 19 Jan 2010 23:55 Hi again, Lem, I posted a message to you from the library this afternoon, but maybe I failed to hit the "Post" button or something, because it didn't seem to go through. Did you catch that part about my posting to you "from the library"? That's right! Today I was able to connect to the library's Wi-Fi from my "new" laptop. It looks like manually disabling the WEP encryption was what did the trick. Thanks a million for your patience and diligence in sticking with me as I stumbled through this process. And thanks to the others who contributed to this thread. I know I could never have managed to figure out how to do this without all of your help. I think it was you who suggested I reformat the hard drive on this hand-me-down laptop and then reinstall XP. Well, that's exactly why I wanted to make sure I could connect to the library's Wi-Fi. At home I only have a free dial-up Internet connection. And I imagine I'm going to have to download a raft load of updates after reinstalling this old version of XP I got from Toshiba. It would probably take days and days via dial-up. So, now I'm going to compile a set of instructions, based on the messages you've posted here, so after the reformat and reinstall, I can go over to the library and start downloading the updates, patches, etc. Then, finally, I'll have a computer I can use while I'm resting in bed, which is where I spend most of my time these days. Thanks again to all of you for your generosity in sharing your expertise with me. -- Will in Seattle a.k.a. "Clueless"
From: Lem on 20 Jan 2010 10:16 Clueless in Seattle wrote: > Hi again, Lem, > > I posted a message to you from the library this afternoon, but maybe I > failed to hit the "Post" button or something, because it didn't seem to go > through. > > Did you catch that part about my posting to you "from the library"? That's > right! Today I was able to connect to the library's Wi-Fi from my "new" > laptop. It looks like manually disabling the WEP encryption was what did the > trick. > > Thanks a million for your patience and diligence in sticking with me as I > stumbled through this process. And thanks to the others who contributed to > this thread. I know I could never have managed to figure out how to do this > without all of your help. > > I think it was you who suggested I reformat the hard drive on this > hand-me-down laptop and then reinstall XP. Well, that's exactly why I wanted > to make sure I could connect to the library's Wi-Fi. At home I only have a > free dial-up Internet connection. And I imagine I'm going to have to download > a raft load of updates after reinstalling this old version of XP I got from > Toshiba. It would probably take days and days via dial-up. > > So, now I'm going to compile a set of instructions, based on the messages > you've posted here, so after the reformat and reinstall, I can go over to the > library and start downloading the updates, patches, etc. > > Then, finally, I'll have a computer I can use while I'm resting in bed, > which is where I spend most of my time these days. > > Thanks again to all of you for your generosity in sharing your expertise > with me. Great. Assuming that you have a retail Windows XP CD, this is a good site for instructions on how to do a clean install: http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html I suggest that you print it out and read it all the way through before doing the install. Make sure that you have the product activation key. Two important caveats: 1. If your CD has an older version of Windows XP (e.g., SP1 or SP2) read the section on "slipstreaming" and create a CD that incorporates SP3. If you have a really old CD (pre-SP1), you can slipstream sp2, but you'll have to update with sp3 after the install. For more info, Google slipstream xp sp3 2. *Before* you start reinstalling Windows, go to the website of the manufacturer of the laptop and download all of the relevant drivers. See, for example, the section on drivers here: http://tweakhound.com/xp/installxp/installXP1.htm Because your laptop is so old, it's possible that XP will have sufficient built-in drivers so that things will work, but if you don't get the manufacturer's drivers, you may find that some features don't work or don't work properly. I do *not* recommend getting drivers from Windows Update. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
From: Clueless in Seattle on 21 Jan 2010 19:20 Hi again (again!) Lem, Yesterday I posted a reply to your most recent message, but as also happened the day before yesterday, my message seems to have vanished into the electronic ether. So, I'll try again: A fellow over at a Toshiba laptop forum tells me that what I'm about to do is not "reinstalling" XP but rather "restoring" it. I have to confess that that's a distinction that is lost on me. But what he says leads me to believe that the CDs I got from Toshiba already have many of the drivers I'm going to need: "If you are going to use the discs that Toshiba sent you, Will, you will not be partitioning the hard disk or even installing Windows. "You will be restoring the hard disk to its original contents. The process simply lays down all the bytes on the drive, one-by-one. The original preinstalled Windows with all the drivers, utilities, and original software will be restored." If that's the case, would slipstreaming work for me? -- Will in Seattle a.k.a. "Clueless" "Lem" wrote: > Clueless in Seattle wrote: > > Hi again, Lem, > > > > I posted a message to you from the library this afternoon, but maybe I > > failed to hit the "Post" button or something, because it didn't seem to go > > through. > > > > Did you catch that part about my posting to you "from the library"? That's > > right! Today I was able to connect to the library's Wi-Fi from my "new" > > laptop. It looks like manually disabling the WEP encryption was what did the > > trick. > > > > Thanks a million for your patience and diligence in sticking with me as I > > stumbled through this process. And thanks to the others who contributed to > > this thread. I know I could never have managed to figure out how to do this > > without all of your help. > > > > I think it was you who suggested I reformat the hard drive on this > > hand-me-down laptop and then reinstall XP. Well, that's exactly why I wanted > > to make sure I could connect to the library's Wi-Fi. At home I only have a > > free dial-up Internet connection. And I imagine I'm going to have to download > > a raft load of updates after reinstalling this old version of XP I got from > > Toshiba. It would probably take days and days via dial-up. > > > > So, now I'm going to compile a set of instructions, based on the messages > > you've posted here, so after the reformat and reinstall, I can go over to the > > library and start downloading the updates, patches, etc. > > > > Then, finally, I'll have a computer I can use while I'm resting in bed, > > which is where I spend most of my time these days. > > > > Thanks again to all of you for your generosity in sharing your expertise > > with me. > > Great. > > Assuming that you have a retail Windows XP CD, this is a good site for > instructions on how to do a clean install: > http://michaelstevenstech.com/cleanxpinstall.html > I suggest that you print it out and read it all the way through before > doing the install. Make sure that you have the product activation key. > > Two important caveats: > > 1. If your CD has an older version of Windows XP (e.g., SP1 or SP2) read > the section on "slipstreaming" and create a CD that incorporates SP3. > If you have a really old CD (pre-SP1), you can slipstream sp2, but > you'll have to update with sp3 after the install. For more info, Google > slipstream xp sp3 > > 2. *Before* you start reinstalling Windows, go to the website of the > manufacturer of the laptop and download all of the relevant drivers. > See, for example, the section on drivers here: > http://tweakhound.com/xp/installxp/installXP1.htm > Because your laptop is so old, it's possible that XP will have > sufficient built-in drivers so that things will work, but if you don't > get the manufacturer's drivers, you may find that some features don't > work or don't work properly. I do *not* recommend getting drivers from > Windows Update. > > -- > Lem > > Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html > . >
From: Lem on 22 Jan 2010 00:05 Clueless in Seattle wrote: > Hi again (again!) Lem, > > Yesterday I posted a reply to your most recent message, but as also happened > the day before yesterday, my message seems to have vanished into the > electronic ether. So, I'll try again: > > A fellow over at a Toshiba laptop forum tells me that what I'm about to do > is not "reinstalling" XP but rather "restoring" it. I have to confess that > that's a distinction that is lost on me. But what he says leads me to > believe that the CDs I got from Toshiba already have many of the drivers I'm > going to need: > > "If you are going to use the discs that Toshiba sent you, Will, you will not > be partitioning the hard disk or even installing Windows. > > "You will be restoring the hard disk to its original contents. The process > simply lays down all the bytes on the drive, one-by-one. The original > preinstalled Windows with all the drivers, utilities, and original software > will be restored." > > If that's the case, would slipstreaming work for me? > Instead of providing an actual Windows CD (like the one you might buy in a retail store) with systems that come with Windows pre-installed and pre-activated, so-called "direct OEMs" (i.e., the big name-brand computer manufacturers) provide a mechanism to restore the computer to the state it was in when it left the factory, i.e., with Windows installed, activated, and with all of the additional software that the manufacturer decided to pre-load on the computer. This mechanism may be a CD or DVD (or set of CDs) or it may be a hidden partition on the hard drive. Slipstreaming isn't appropriate for such CDs. You can, however, download the complete sp3 installation and burn it to a CD (assuming that you have a CD burner): http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=5B33B5A8-5E76-401F-BE08-1E1555D4F3D4 You can only install sp3 on a system that has sp1 or later. Unless you can date your restore CDs (or know when the laptop was originally purchased), you won't know what service pack, if any, you'll end up with after the restore. See this for more details, including where to get sp1a if you need it: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/322389 Although that KB article says that you need SP1a or later to install sp3, SP1 and SP1a differ only with respect Java (Microsoft lost a lawsuit with Sun and had to remove the Microsoft version of Java that was in the original sp1). -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
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