From: Inertial on
"Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen(a)nospam.please> wrote in message
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> Inertial wrote:
>> "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:49962b2d-994c-4cd2-98d8-fcdd7ff087cd(a)g19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com...
>> [...]
>>
>> I don't need any help. You do, but refuse to learn. That's your problem
>> .. but the rest of us have to suffer through your ignorance and
>> stupidity.
>
> We'd suffer less if you'd just give up. Unless you're enjoying
> yourself, of course. Why do you keep arguing so fervently, even
> though you know you'll never be getting anywhere?

Because I like the truth to be out there .. if feel a duty to those who read
these threads. And maybe .. just maybe .. he might one day surprise us and
start to see where he is going wrong and understand.

From: Inertial on
"Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen(a)nospam.please> wrote in message
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> Inertial wrote:
>> "Jeroen Belleman" <jeroen(a)nospam.please> wrote in message
>> news:huqc9b$b90$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> Inertial wrote:
>>>> I don't need any help. You [Y.P.] do, but refuse to learn. That's
>>>> your problem .. but the rest of us have to suffer through your
>>>> ignorance and stupidity.
>>>
>>> We'd suffer less if you'd just give up. Unless you're enjoying
>>> yourself, of course. Why do you keep arguing so fervently, even
>>> though you know you'll never be getting anywhere?
>>
>> Because I like the truth to be out there .. if feel a duty to those who
>> read these threads. And maybe .. just maybe .. he might one day surprise
>> us and start to see where he is going wrong and understand.
>
> You are entitled to your feelings. However, in my honest opinion, I do
> not think you are doing sci.physics a service. I do not believe that
> you will succeed to convince him. For anyone so inclined, the concepts
> discussed are easy enough to come by, but none so blind as those who
> will not see.

True .. prob shouldn't go to the sci.physics and sci.physics.particle. ..
but Porat loves to cross post his hatred. if I take them off my replyies he
yells insults and says I'm cheating and depriving his readers and puts the
same groups (if not more) back on again.


From: Y.Porat on
On Jun 10, 1:52 pm, Jeroen Belleman <jer...(a)nospam.please> wrote:
> Inertial wrote:
> > "Jeroen Belleman" <jer...(a)nospam.please> wrote in message
> >news:huqc9b$b90$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> >> Inertial wrote:
> >>> I don't need any help.  You [Y.P.] do, but refuse to learn.  That's your
> >>> problem .. but the rest of us have to suffer through your ignorance
> >>> and stupidity.
>
> >> We'd suffer less if you'd just give up. Unless you're enjoying
> >> yourself, of course. Why do you keep arguing so fervently, even
> >> though you know you'll never be getting anywhere?
>
> > Because I like the truth to be out there .. if feel a duty to those who
> > read these threads.  And maybe .. just maybe .. he might one day
> > surprise us and start to see where he is going wrong and understand.
>
> You are entitled to your feelings. However, in my honest opinion, I do
> not think you are doing sci.physics a service. I do not believe that
> you will succeed to convince him. For anyone so inclined, the concepts
> discussed are easy enough to come by, but none so blind as those who
> will not see.
>
> Jeroen Belleman

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MR belleman
BTW are you a physicist ??)
inertial admitted that
the dimensions of photon momentum are

M L/C

soof course just those dinensions
cannot describe and define the
photon momentum there must be some
scalar figures that are attached to it!!

now
according to you
what is that L/C stand for - in that formula
(of photon momentum ???)

TIA
Y.Porat
--------------------------

From: Inertial on
"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
news:43464268-0cac-4e45-9f91-0becac7795c5(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 10, 1:52 pm, Jeroen Belleman <jer...(a)nospam.please> wrote:
>> Inertial wrote:
>> > "Jeroen Belleman" <jer...(a)nospam.please> wrote in message
>> >news:huqc9b$b90$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> >> Inertial wrote:
>> >>> I don't need any help. You [Y.P.] do, but refuse to learn. That's
>> >>> your
>> >>> problem .. but the rest of us have to suffer through your ignorance
>> >>> and stupidity.
>>
>> >> We'd suffer less if you'd just give up. Unless you're enjoying
>> >> yourself, of course. Why do you keep arguing so fervently, even
>> >> though you know you'll never be getting anywhere?
>>
>> > Because I like the truth to be out there .. if feel a duty to those who
>> > read these threads. And maybe .. just maybe .. he might one day
>> > surprise us and start to see where he is going wrong and understand.
>>
>> You are entitled to your feelings. However, in my honest opinion, I do
>> not think you are doing sci.physics a service. I do not believe that
>> you will succeed to convince him. For anyone so inclined, the concepts
>> discussed are easy enough to come by, but none so blind as those who
>> will not see.
>>
>> Jeroen Belleman
>
> ------------------------
> MR belleman
> BTW are you a physicist ??)
> inertial admitted that
> the dimensions of photon momentum are
>
> M L/C

No. I did not. I said very clearly they were ML/T. Don't lie about what I
say.

There was no 'admission' .. ML/T is what the dimensions of any momentum are
and always have been. P = h / lamda is perfectly correct as far as
dimension go.

> soof course just those dinensions
> cannot describe and define the
> photon momentum

P = h / lambda gives you the momentum with the correct dimensions and
numerical value

> there must be some
> scalar figures that are attached to it!!

P, h , and lambda are ALL scalars. They each have a numerical value and
dimensions. Depending on you units of measure and what EMR you are talking
about, you get difference values for photon momentum

> now
> according to you
> what is that L/C stand for - in that formula

There is no L/C in the formula. There is h/lambda. And that has units of
ML/T. Try to keep up

> (of photon momentum ???)


From: Y.Porat on
On Jun 10, 2:26 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote:
> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:43464268-0cac-4e45-9f91-0becac7795c5(a)d37g2000yqm.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > On Jun 10, 1:52 pm, Jeroen Belleman <jer...(a)nospam.please> wrote:
> >> Inertial wrote:
> >> > "Jeroen Belleman" <jer...(a)nospam.please> wrote in message
> >> >news:huqc9b$b90$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
> >> >> Inertial wrote:
> >> >>> I don't need any help.  You [Y.P.] do, but refuse to learn.  That's
> >> >>> your
> >> >>> problem .. but the rest of us have to suffer through your ignorance
> >> >>> and stupidity.
>
> >> >> We'd suffer less if you'd just give up. Unless you're enjoying
> >> >> yourself, of course. Why do you keep arguing so fervently, even
> >> >> though you know you'll never be getting anywhere?
>
> >> > Because I like the truth to be out there .. if feel a duty to those who
> >> > read these threads.  And maybe .. just maybe .. he might one day
> >> > surprise us and start to see where he is going wrong and understand.
>
> >> You are entitled to your feelings. However, in my honest opinion, I do
> >> not think you are doing sci.physics a service. I do not believe that
> >> you will succeed to convince him. For anyone so inclined, the concepts
> >> discussed are easy enough to come by, but none so blind as those who
> >> will not see.
>
> >> Jeroen Belleman
>
> > ------------------------
> > MR belleman
> > BTW are you a physicist ??)
> > inertial admitted that
> > the dimensions of photon momentum are
>
> > M L/C
>
> No.  I did not.  I said very clearly they were ML/T.  Don't lie about what I
> say.
>
> There was no 'admission' .. ML/T is what the dimensions of any momentum are
> and always have been.  P = h / lamda is perfectly correct as far as
> dimension go.
>
> > soof course just those dinensions
> > cannot describe and define the
> > photon momentum
>
> P = h / lambda gives you the momentum with the correct dimensions and
> numerical value
>
> >   there must be some
> > scalar figures that are attached to it!!
>
> P, h , and lambda are ALL scalars.  They each have a numerical value and
> dimensions.  Depending on you units of measure and what EMR you are talking
> about, you get difference values for photon momentum
>
> > now
> > according to   you
> > what is   that   L/C stand for - in that formula
>
> There is no L/C in the formula.  There is h/lambda. And that has units of
> ML/T. Try to keep up
>
> > (of photon momentum ???)

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next !!
enough is enough with that psychopath pig
imbecile donkey

now i wait for Human being PHYSICISTS
to get in that discussion !!
and to make some advance in physics !!

TIA
Y.Porat
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