Why do Apple Mail accounts go off-line spontaneously?
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From: Jolly Roger on 26 Nov 2009 09:13 In article <barmar-FCB8F6.01363126112009(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-A036DD.00003326112009(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > Gracefully give up and try again later. After -x- or more consecutive > > tries, *then* take them offline. Most email connectivity issues are > > temporary, after all, IME. > > But it's not a connectivity issue. It's an explicit error response to > the password. If servers weren't so buggy, this would always be a true > problem with the password. > > Probably Mail should behave differently if this happens when you click > on "Get Mail" versus scheduled mail downloads, or if Mail is in the > foreground or background. If it's the foreground application or you > manually ask it to download mail, it should show the error immediately. > But if it's running in the background and doing automatic downloads, you > don't need to be annoyed immediately. > > However, the problem with this is that you might never bring mail to the > foreground. I leave Mail running all the time, but I only select it > when the badge shows that I have new mail, or I want to send an email. > If it's having problems logging in, I'd never find out if it didn't pop > up an alert. That's why it would display a message "after -x- or more consecutive tries", like I said. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: Jolly Roger on 26 Nov 2009 09:13 In article <barmar-7762AB.01294026112009(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-722027.23554425112009(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > In article <barmar-6A8F0A.23462825112009(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > > Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > > > > > In article <jollyroger-7A811D.19151725112009(a)news.individual.net>, > > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Actually, the OP and I are talking about what happens if the connection > > > > fails. > > > > > > I've never seen it ask for the password when that happens. In that case > > > it just marks the account offline with, I think with a triangle with "!" > > > in it. > > > > > > It only asks for a new password if the connection succeeds and login > > > fails. > > > > Did you read the OP? He didn't claim it asked for a password. > > Did you? Here's the first sentence: > > > Often, I have a window pop up asking for my password for accounts that > > have gone off-line for no apparent reason. My bad. SOmehow I skimmed past that part. -- Send responses to the relevant news group rather than email to me. E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my very hungry SPAM filter. Due to Google's refusal to prevent spammers from posting messages through their servers, I often ignore posts from Google Groups. Use a real news client if you want me to see your posts. JR
From: TaliesinSoft on 26 Nov 2009 10:48 On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 02:56:00 -0600, Paul Sture wrote (in article <paul.nospam-88AF9D.09560026112009(a)pbook.sture.ch>): > I have a POP account with my ISP and several IMAP accounts with a hosting > company. I'm one with a single IMAP mail account with MobileMe and don't feel the need for more than that. I haven't had (at least to my awareness) any problems with Mail via MobileMe. -- James Leo Ryan --- Austin, Texas --- taliesinsoft(a)me.com
From: Barry Margolin on 26 Nov 2009 18:01 In article <paul.nospam-CB2BDE.10085626112009(a)pbook.sture.ch>, Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote: > In article <jollyroger-A036DD.00003326112009(a)news.individual.net>, > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > Asking for a password is one thing. Taking accounts offline and refusing > > to check email again for them until the user manually re-enables them is > > another. Entourage doesn't do it. Others I have used in the past, > > including Outlook Express and Claris Emailer, didn't used do it either. > > I suppose it's better than Mail several OS X versions back, where it > would repeatedly ask for the password to the point where I would exit > Mail altogether. I never noticed that. But what I did notice in Tiger was that if it was left with the password prompt for too long, Mail would start to use more and more CPU time. I would often wake up in the morning, or come home from work, and find Mail.app barely responsive because it got one of these errors a few hours earlier while I was away from the computer. -- Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me *** *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***
From: Paul Sture on 28 Nov 2009 13:54
In article <barmar-D6D16F.18010226112009(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote: > In article <paul.nospam-CB2BDE.10085626112009(a)pbook.sture.ch>, > Paul Sture <paul.nospam(a)sture.ch> wrote: > > > In article <jollyroger-A036DD.00003326112009(a)news.individual.net>, > > Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote: > > > > > Asking for a password is one thing. Taking accounts offline and refusing > > > to check email again for them until the user manually re-enables them is > > > another. Entourage doesn't do it. Others I have used in the past, > > > including Outlook Express and Claris Emailer, didn't used do it either. > > > > I suppose it's better than Mail several OS X versions back, where it > > would repeatedly ask for the password to the point where I would exit > > Mail altogether. > > I never noticed that. But what I did notice in Tiger was that if it was > left with the password prompt for too long, Mail would start to use more > and more CPU time. I would often wake up in the morning, or come home > from work, and find Mail.app barely responsive because it got one of > these errors a few hours earlier while I was away from the computer. I must have been lucky. I never witnessed that. -- Paul Sture |