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From: Ken Barrett on 3 Aug 2010 14:39 Just because we cannot explain something does not mean God did it. A long time ago we didn't know how lightning was formed, and we thought "God did it". Then we found out, and it's no longer a mystery. The same could be true of literally anything. If there is a God, I highly doubt he operates in any of the ways the major religions says he does. It makes absolutely no sense based on the level of insignificance of our species, and how small we are. Now life is extremely meaningful and our lives matter, but from a Universal perspective, it doesn't.
From: Smiler. on 3 Aug 2010 22:27 |-|ercules wrote: > "Government Shill #2" <gov.shill(a)gmail.com> wrote ... >> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 18:01:56 +1000, "|-|ercules" >> <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> "Government Shill #2" <gov.shill(a)gmail.com> wrote ... >>>> On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 11:58:47 +1000, "|-|ercules" >>>> <radgray123(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> According to atheists, we PERCEIVE it as sweet so our ancestors >>>>> were more likely to consume it for energy to pass on their genes! >>>>> >>>>> But that would mean chicken, lamb, mustard and every taste is >>>>> purely manufactured by our brains to give it some functional >>>>> relevance. >>>>> >>>>> Either that or it's a just a COINCIDENCE that the simplest most >>>>> available food chemical has this wonderful sweet taste sensation. >>>>> >>>>> It's just one of MILLIONS of coincidences. >>>>> >>>>> Another example: If the Earth was 50% smaller, we would have no >>>>> atmosphere like Mars. If Earth was 50% bigger our muscles would be >>>>> too weak >>>>> to carry a big brain, crabs would be the dominant lifeform and nobody >>>>> would >>>>> be able to ponder the existence of the Universe! >>>>> >>>>> Or water, H20. It's the only chemical of it's type that is >>>>> liquid at around 300 Kelvin, It's unique Hydrogen bond giving the >>>>> characteristic bend in the >>>>> molecule alters it's properties so that there are liquid oceans on >>>>> livable planets. No liquid water, no life! Speaking of water, osmosis! >>>>> This function is absolutely critical >>>>> for life to exist, except maybe phsophorous life forms. No >>>>> osmosis, no life. There are THOUSANDS of narrow windows of opportunity >>>>> and life >>>>> depends on every single one. The best argument AGAINST a creator was >>>>> written by >>>>> Rich Dawk! Yet according to the atheist it's just a bit of luck! Wait >>>>> a few >>>>> billion years and the strongest survive QED. >>>> >>>> Yeah dope. Wait a few billion years, on many billion planets, in >>>> many billions of galaxies, and eventually one, or two, or a >>>> hundred, will develop life in the way ours did. >>>> >>>> On the other hand... there will be billions and billions of >>>> planets that are, too small, too big, too far from their star, too >>>> close to their star, not have the right gasses, elements, >>>> proteins... No one lives on the failures to notice they are failures. >>>> >>>> Are you really that dumb? You sometimes seem smarter. >>>> >>> >>> >>> I was wondering what inane counter argument some atheist would come >>> up with. >> >> I am sad to see that science escapes you. >> >> Apparently religion keeps you locked into ignorance. >> > > At least it answers why sugar is sweet. Unlike scanning a post for > keywords and making the best fitting cliche response and spouting that it > answers the question. That's another Irony Meter you owe me, Jerc. -- Smiler The godless one. a.a.# 2279 All gods are bespoke. They're all made to perfectly fit the prejudices of their believers.
From: Frederick Williams on 4 Aug 2010 08:56 |-|ercules wrote: > It's [water's] unique Hydrogen bond giving the characteristic bend in the molecule ... What utter rot. -- I can't go on, I'll go on.
From: |-|ercules on 4 Aug 2010 16:52 "Frederick Williams" <frederick.williams2(a)tesco.net> wrote > |-|ercules wrote: > >> It's [water's] unique Hydrogen bond giving the characteristic bend in the molecule ... > > What utter rot. > I'm sure my Chemistry teacher said the class of molecule water falls into it should be a gas. What causes the bend then? Even though it's not necessary for the sugar argument. Herc
From: Frederick Williams on 5 Aug 2010 07:57
|-|ercules wrote: > > "Frederick Williams" <frederick.williams2(a)tesco.net> wrote > > |-|ercules wrote: > > > >> It's [water's] unique Hydrogen bond giving the characteristic bend in the molecule ... > > > > What utter rot. > > > > I'm sure my Chemistry teacher said the class of molecule water falls into it should be a gas. > > What causes the bend then? Even though it's not necessary for the sugar argument. > > Herc > See Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water#Chemical_and_physical_properties: "The four electron pairs surrounding the oxygen tend to arrange themselves as far from each other as possible in order to minimize repulsions between these clouds of negative charge. This would ordinarily result in a tetrahedral geometry in which the angle between electron pairs (and therefore the H-O-H bond angle) is 109.5�. However, because the two non-bonding pairs remain closer to the oxygen atom, these exert a stronger repulsion against the two covalent bonding pairs, effectively pushing the two hydrogen atoms closer together. The result is a distorted tetrahedral arrangement in which the H-O-H angle is 104.5�.[12]" And reference [12]: http://www.chem1.com/acad/sci/aboutwater.html The "bend" as you call it may facilitate hydrogen bonding, but not vice versa. -- I can't go on, I'll go on. |