From: Tommy Pham on 24 Mar 2010 06:03 What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app. Now I hear people mentioning C when they need "productivity" or "speed"...
From: Per Jessen on 24 Mar 2010 06:04 Rene Veerman wrote: > unless the actual php development team would like to weigh in on this= > matter of course. >=20 > yes, i do consider it that important. >=20 > these nay-sayers usually also lobby the dev-team to such extent that > these features would actually not make it into php. I for one will not be lobbying anyone in that regard. I've stated my opinion and argued it, that's all.=20 --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (11.2=C2=B0C)
From: Per Jessen on 24 Mar 2010 06:06 Stuart Dallas wrote: > I love the way you call us nay-sayers like it's supposed to be an > insult. I follow the KISS principle to the nth, and as such threading= > in PHP doesn't make a lot of sense to me. I'm yet to come across a > problem I couldn't solve with pure PHP, but when the need arises I > have no issue mixing in a little C++, Python, Ruby, or whatever, to > meet my performance and scalability goals. I go to the mountain, I > don't sit there complaining that the mountain ain't moving in my > direction! +1. --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (11.2=C2=B0C)
From: Per Jessen on 24 Mar 2010 06:20 Tommy Pham wrote: > What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier > mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app. Now= > I hear people mentioning C when they need "productivity" or "speed"..= .. >=20 I think I was the one to mention the latter, but as I started out saying, and as others have said too, it's about the right tool for the right job. When choosing a tool, there are a number of factors to consider - developer productivity, available skills, future maintenance, performance, scalability, portability, parallelism, performance etcetera. =20 --=20 Per Jessen, Z=C3=BCrich (11.4=C2=B0C)
From: Tommy Pham on 24 Mar 2010 06:28
On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:20 AM, Per Jessen <per(a)computer.org> wrote: > Tommy Pham wrote: > >> What I find funny is that one of opponents of PHP threads earlier >> mentioned that how silly it would be to be using C in a web app.  Now >> I hear people mentioning C when they need "productivity" or "speed"... >> > > I think I was the one to mention the latter, but as I started out > saying, and as others have said too, it's about the right tool for the > right job.  When choosing a tool, there are a number of factors to > consider - developer productivity, available skills, future > maintenance, performance, scalability, portability, parallelism, > performance etcetera. > Funny you should mention all that. Let's say that you're longer with that company, either by direct employment or contract consultant. You've implemented C because you need 'thread'. Now your replacement comes in and has no clue about C even though your replacement is a PHP guru. How much headache is maintenance gonna be? Scalability? Portability? wow.... > > > -- > Per Jessen, Zürich (11.4°C) > > > -- > PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > |