From: nospam on
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<5a8700ad-7d5a-4b1f-b007-15e56f6d54f9(a)x6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, DJW
<ddwr(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

> I checked ebay and found cares would there be any disadvantage to
> getting a card that is both USB and firewire or would it possible work
> better as a stand alone USB PCI card and if I want to add firewire ( I
> have two ports now) I get a PCI firewire card seperatly?

either way. do you have enough slots for everything you want? just be
sure it's ohci compliant.
From: Erik Richard Sørensen on

DJW wrote:
> On Feb 6, 12:12 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> Erik Richard Sørensen <NOS...(a)NOSPAM.dk> wrote:
>>> Some non-Apple keyboards and mice will not work with an USB PCI card in
>>> the B&W G3, because the PCI cards load rathr late in the system parts in
>>> both OS 9.x and OS X on those machines.
>> wrong. if it's a usb standard keyboard or mouse, it will work.
>
> I checked ebay and found cares would there be any disadvantage to
> getting a card that is both USB and firewire or would it possible work
> better as a stand alone USB PCI card and if I want to add firewire ( I
> have two ports now) I get a PCI firewire card seperatly?

No problem, most of my cards are combo cards with both Firewire and USB
(PowerLogix PowerFoce Combo). No differences in how they work.

Cheers, Erik Richard

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From: DJW on
On Feb 6, 10:18 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article
> <5a8700ad-7d5a-4b1f-b007-15e56f6d5...(a)x6g2000vbl.googlegroups.com>, DJW
>
> <d...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I checked ebay and found cares would there be any disadvantage to
> > getting a card that is both USB and firewire or would it possible work
> > better as a stand alone USB PCI card and if I want to add firewire ( I
> > have two ports now) I get a PCI firewire card seperatly?
>
> either way. do you have enough slots for everything you want? just be
> sure it's ohci compliant.

what does ohci mean?
From: Geoffrey S. Mendelson on
DJW wrote:
> On Feb 6, 10:18 pm, nospam <nos...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> what does ohci mean?

It's a type of USB host chip. There were two competing chipsets for USB 1.
The Open (OHCI) and the Universal (UHCI) chipsets. Apple only supported one.

The easiest way I know to check is to look at the big chip on the card. If it
says "OPTI" on it, then you will be ok.

Note that unless your computer had USB ports (and supported USB keyboards
and mice) normally, adding a USB card, no matter what chipset won't get you
USB support without an operating system.

If you want to use the mouse or the keyboard before the operating system is
booted and the drivers are loaded, they won't be recognized and you will
need an ADB keyboard/mouse.

Once finishes booting, the drivers will be loaded and you can use you USB
keyboard or mouse.

The best support for PCI USB cards was came in OS 9.1. Later versions of
MacOS included it, older ones needed an update to get it. It works with MacOS
8.6 up to but not including 9.1, where it is already there. You can download
it if you nose around Apple's website.

USB 2 support was never included in MacOS before OSX, and AFAIK MacOS 9
(or older) won't run in native mode on Macs with USB 2 ports. Orange Micro
sold USB 2 cards with OS9 drivers, but the cards and drivers are almost
impossible to find.

Geoff.
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