From: Ted Banks on
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 20:03:47 +0100, "David J Taylor"
<david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote in message
>news:010720101102295613%nospam(a)nospam.invalid...
>[]
>> you are trying to twist a comparison of two different technologies into
>> personal skill.
>>
>> are you that desperate?
>
>I should have learnt from last time I tried to have a reasoned discussion
>with John how quickly it deteriorates.
>
>Cheers,
>David

You mean how he just proved you 100% wrong, and that you are an imbecile
besides? Is that what you mean by "how quickly it deteriorates"?

From: George Kerby on



On 7/1/10 2:49 PM, in article 010720101249572451%nospam(a)nospam.invalid,
"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article <i0ioql$9mb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, David J Taylor
> <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>
>>> you are trying to twist a comparison of two different technologies into
>>> personal skill.
>>>
>>> are you that desperate?
>>
>> I should have learnt from last time I tried to have a reasoned discussion
>> with John how quickly it deteriorates.
>
> it's the same game every time. he'll twist it into something else and
> play semantic games, then claim ad hominem and end the discussion, or
> sometimes his exit strategy is saying we'll agree to disagree.
>
> by him calling your skills into question (without ever having seen your
> work, i might add), he is guilty of the very sin he likes to attribute
> to others:
>
> 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence, whereas
> those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'

I don't know why you all try and reason with the unreasonable. NavASS is a
pompous fool and every time you interact it inflates his pinhead.

From: Outing Trolls is FUN! on
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:32:28 -0500, George Kerby <ghost_topper(a)hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>
>
>On 7/1/10 2:49 PM, in article 010720101249572451%nospam(a)nospam.invalid,
>"nospam" <nospam(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article <i0ioql$9mb$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, David J Taylor
>> <david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>> you are trying to twist a comparison of two different technologies into
>>>> personal skill.
>>>>
>>>> are you that desperate?
>>>
>>> I should have learnt from last time I tried to have a reasoned discussion
>>> with John how quickly it deteriorates.
>>
>> it's the same game every time. he'll twist it into something else and
>> play semantic games, then claim ad hominem and end the discussion, or
>> sometimes his exit strategy is saying we'll agree to disagree.
>>
>> by him calling your skills into question (without ever having seen your
>> work, i might add), he is guilty of the very sin he likes to attribute
>> to others:
>>
>> 'Those who have evidence will present their evidence, whereas
>> those who do not have evidence will attack the man.'
>
>I don't know why you all try and reason with the unreasonable. NavASS is a
>pompous fool and every time you interact it inflates his pinhead.

Let us know if you ever happen to have any information about cameras and
photography. How many years of posts has it been and you've never had any
knowledge nor experience to share about any of the topics of the groups
that you infest.

From: David J Taylor on
"John Navas" <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:6e1q261t7nb15lpn36hetlsmpvg3krnpjl(a)4ax.com...
[]
> If discourtesy and disrespect are your idea of "reasoned discussion"
> then we must be speaking different languages.

There's something in that, John. I am a British native English speaker.
I have never knowingly been discourteous to or disrespectful of anyone in
my newsgroup discussions.

> I've done my best to be polite and respectful of you in this discussion,
> your lack of ability to use the controls on my camera notwithstanding,
> but your continued discourtesy and mischaracterizations are making that
> more and more difficult.
>
> Suit yourself.
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John

Respect is something you need to earn, John. Perhaps you might take on
board the comments which other have made. It /is/ difficult to have a
reasoned discussion with you, particularly where your views differ from
those being offered - for example your refusal to accept that twist zoom
is faster than push the button this way then that way zoom.

Cheers,
David

From: John Navas on
On Fri, 2 Jul 2010 07:41:11 +0100, in
<i0k1m9$7u8$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, "David J Taylor"
<david-taylor(a)blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:

>"John Navas" <jncl1(a)navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:6e1q261t7nb15lpn36hetlsmpvg3krnpjl(a)4ax.com...
>[]
>> If discourtesy and disrespect are your idea of "reasoned discussion"
>> then we must be speaking different languages.
>
>There's something in that, John. I am a British native English speaker.
>I have never knowingly been discourteous to or disrespectful of anyone in
>my newsgroup discussions.
>
>> I've done my best to be polite and respectful of you in this discussion,
>> your lack of ability to use the controls on my camera notwithstanding,
>> but your continued discourtesy and mischaracterizations are making that
>> more and more difficult.
>>
>> Suit yourself.
>
>Respect is something you need to earn, John. Perhaps you might take on
>board the comments which other have made. It /is/ difficult to have a
>reasoned discussion with you, particularly where your views differ from
>those being offered - for example your refusal to accept that twist zoom
>is faster than push the button this way then that way zoom.

Sorry, David, but your lack of ability to use power zoom effectively is
no excuse for your disrespect of others who have no such limitations.

I see you haven't changed, and that trying to have a constructive
discussion with you is a waste of time and effort.

--
Best regards,
John

"Nothing is as peevish and pedantic as men's judgments of one another."
-Desiderius Erasmus