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From: Unknown on 10 Feb 2010 10:56
I use 'Bounceback', developed by CMS products. If interested, go to
www.cmsproducts.com and read all about their backup systems.
They also will answer any question you might have.
I have no connections with them whatsoever but they have sold me a backup
system
I think is foolproof. (My opinion)
"Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam(a)telus.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:ubNzO5PqKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> What you say is simply not true. I have a backup external drive and can
>> get my computer running
>> again without the need of a floppy regardless of what happened to the
>> internal drive.
> ...
>
> Could you enlarge on how you do this?
>


From: Twayne on 10 Feb 2010 11:30
In news:ubNzO5PqKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl,
Unknown <unknown(a)unknown.kom> typed:
> What you say is simply not true. I have a backup external drive and
> can get my computer running
> again without the need of a floppy regardless of what happened to the
> internal drive.

Then you're using more than just ntbackup.exe. Most people who get around
the floppy problem can figure a way to use a bootable CD which makes it
pretty easy, or even a third party program. But you conveniently give no
details of any kind.

> "Twayne" <nobody(a)spamcop.net> wrote in message
> news:%23hKq0GPqKHA.4604(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> In news:0B0225F2-C70C-48EF-BF02-FC85F2683C24(a)microsoft.com,
>> TimeLady <tau_delta(a)SPAMTRAPhotmail.co.uk> typed:
>>> "Jim" <j.n(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:#wprXSopKHA.4280(a)TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>> Backup and resture using ntbackup has a couple of problems:
>>>> 1. You must use an installation CD to perform the restore.
>>>> 2. You must have a floppy drive to perform the restore.
>>>>
>>>> I converted to Acronis True Image several years ago and never
>>>> looked back. Acronis creates a full backup of the system disk in
>>>> about 17 minutes.
>>>> Restore takes about 45 minutes. Acronis can create a CD which does
>>>> the restore
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>> "joe" <joe(a)ebox.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:Ont0crnpKHA.4836(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>> win xp pro sp3
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been in the habit of backing up my most important data to
>>>>> an external hard disk folder by folder. Only about 10gb and takes
>>>>> about 5 minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have just looked at the built in backup program with xp pro and
>>>>> have never seen any reference to it in this group and wondered how
>>>>> many people use it. I am curious how well it works and have a
>>>>> couple of questions about it which are not quite clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of the options is to backup all information. Incidentally this
>>>>> shows it will take one hour thirty minutes. Under what conditions
>>>>> could one restore from this type of backup and does it work? If
>>>>> there is some crash which makes XP unable to start can the backup
>>>>> be used? It then goes on to choose between Incremental and
>>>>> differential backup. I'm afraid this bit confuses me.
>>>>> What I want to do is backup only any changed or new files to each
>>>>> of the folders. Which one would I use?
>>>>>
>>>>> None of the results on Google were detailed enough, even the
>>>>> description on Microsoft's website does not explain in detail.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any clarification from the monitors of this group would be
>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Sorry but I must disagree, I've used NTBackup & have never required
>>> any installation CD nor a floppy drive to restore the files
>>> required. So far I've been quite happy with the feature/software.
>>> I have Win XP sp3.
>>>
>>> Edna.
>>
>> You are correct. The only time anything like that is required would
>> be for a restoration from a full catastrophic loss of the drive.
>> Then you need the bootable floppy ASR since the drive isn't bootable
>> (as in a new blank drive). Ntbackup also reminds you to create new
>> ASR floppies when needed. HTH,
>>
>> Twayne
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
>> through personal experience does not become a
>> part of the moral tissue.



--
--
Life is the only real counselor; wisdom unfiltered
through personal experience does not become a
part of the moral tissue.

From: Anthony Buckland on 10 Feb 2010 18:00
Thanks. I looked briefly at the user manual, and I see that the
backup includes everything needed to recover. Sort of the
usual backup _plus_ the recovery CD that is usually on a
separate medium. I assume that a system with no disk
contents can always read via a USB 2.0 port; something
I've never tried.

"Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message
news:OPQknmmqKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>I use 'Bounceback', developed by CMS products. If interested, go to
> www.cmsproducts.com and read all about their backup systems.
> They also will answer any question you might have.
> I have no connections with them whatsoever but they have sold me a backup
> system
> I think is foolproof. (My opinion)
> "Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:OqbczNdqKHA.1796(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message
>> news:ubNzO5PqKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>> What you say is simply not true. I have a backup external drive and can
>>> get my computer running
>>> again without the need of a floppy regardless of what happened to the
>>> internal drive.
>> ...
>>
>> Could you enlarge on how you do this?
>>
>
>


From: Unknown on 11 Feb 2010 12:18
Don't know exactly what you mean by a "system with no disk contents".
"Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:%23vzHpTqqKHA.5956(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> Thanks. I looked briefly at the user manual, and I see that the
> backup includes everything needed to recover. Sort of the
> usual backup _plus_ the recovery CD that is usually on a
> separate medium. I assume that a system with no disk
> contents can always read via a USB 2.0 port; something
> I've never tried.
>
> "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message
> news:OPQknmmqKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>I use 'Bounceback', developed by CMS products. If interested, go to
>> www.cmsproducts.com and read all about their backup systems.
>> They also will answer any question you might have.
>> I have no connections with them whatsoever but they have sold me a backup
>> system
>> I think is foolproof. (My opinion)
>> "Anthony Buckland" <anthonybucklandnospam(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:OqbczNdqKHA.1796(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message
>>> news:ubNzO5PqKHA.4752(a)TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>> What you say is simply not true. I have a backup external drive and can
>>>> get my computer running
>>>> again without the need of a floppy regardless of what happened to the
>>>> internal drive.
>>> ...
>>>
>>> Could you enlarge on how you do this?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>


From: Anthony Buckland on 14 Feb 2010 23:32

"Unknown" <unknown(a)unknown.kom> wrote in message
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> Don't know exactly what you mean by a "system with no disk contents".
> ...

A system in which all the hard drives have been removed
and replaced with new drives, as they come out of the
box from the store. In particular, with no operating system
and no drivers on any hard disk.


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