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From: David Empson on 1 Feb 2010 22:37 dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <1jdakp6.bhshal15u441gN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > ... > > Thanks for all your clear and to the point help. Also to nospam > for suggesting the third possibility. I am visiting the premises > this avo and will take my Macbook to see if simply typing in a > password does indeed get me online (never taken it out of here > since the day I bought it!) > > Just by the way, not that it matters greatly, if I do the Macbook > to G4 with a cable and rely on the Macbook getting the wireless > connection to internet, will I be able to close the Macbook lid > (the Snow L OS operating, of course) in what I think is called > clamshell mode? Any things to watch out for in doing this if it > is ok to do this? The MacBook must be awake to provide the network connection to the G4, particularly at the point the G4 starts up or wakes up up (in order to supply an IP address to the G4). You can let the MacBook's display and hard drive go to sleep, but the CPU must be active. To use clamshell mode you have to plug in an external display, so this probably won't work unless you have a spare display lying around (and suitable adapter). The MacBook will go to sleep when you close the lid, and you typically press a key on an external USB keyboard to wake it up again. It won't stay awake unless an external display is connected. http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3131 -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: dorayme on 1 Feb 2010 23:46 In article <1jdaoes.kjcito1omw4qN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > .... > > Just by the way, not that it matters greatly, if I do the Macbook > > to G4 with a cable and rely on the Macbook getting the wireless > > connection to internet, will I be able to close the Macbook lid > > (the Snow L OS operating, of course) in what I think is called > > clamshell mode? Any things to watch out for in doing this if it > > is ok to do this? > > The MacBook must be awake to provide the network connection to the G4, > particularly at the point the G4 starts up or wakes up up (in order to > supply an IP address to the G4). > > You can let the MacBook's display and hard drive go to sleep, but the > CPU must be active. > > To use clamshell mode you have to plug in an external display, so this > probably won't work unless you have a spare display lying around (and > suitable adapter). > As it happens, I do have both these things! I have too much equipment. But I guess, if the external monitor has to actually be powered on, there seems little point just for the sake of closing the lid! > The MacBook will go to sleep when you close the lid, and you typically > press a key on an external USB keyboard to wake it up again. It won't > stay awake unless an external display is connected. > > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3131 OK, thanks. Sounds like simply keeping lid open is the simplest if I go this way. -- dorayme
From: David Empson on 2 Feb 2010 00:38 dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <1jdaoes.kjcito1omw4qN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > ... > > > Just by the way, not that it matters greatly, if I do the Macbook > > > to G4 with a cable and rely on the Macbook getting the wireless > > > connection to internet, will I be able to close the Macbook lid > > > (the Snow L OS operating, of course) in what I think is called > > > clamshell mode? Any things to watch out for in doing this if it > > > is ok to do this? > > > > The MacBook must be awake to provide the network connection to the G4, > > particularly at the point the G4 starts up or wakes up up (in order to > > supply an IP address to the G4). > > > > You can let the MacBook's display and hard drive go to sleep, but the > > CPU must be active. > > > > To use clamshell mode you have to plug in an external display, so this > > probably won't work unless you have a spare display lying around (and > > suitable adapter). > > As it happens, I do have both these things! I have too much > equipment. But I guess, if the external monitor has to actually > be powered on, there seems little point just for the sake of > closing the lid! The display doesn't have to be on: it just needs to be recognised by the computer, and most VGA and DVI displays will work like this when powered off. The identification circuitry in the display gets power over the VGA/DVI connection from the computer. > > The MacBook will go to sleep when you close the lid, and you typically > > press a key on an external USB keyboard to wake it up again. It won't > > stay awake unless an external display is connected. > > > > http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3131 > > OK, thanks. Sounds like simply keeping lid open is the simplest > if I go this way. -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: dorayme on 2 Feb 2010 01:43 In article <1jdau4f.oletzaeaasdwN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > In article <1jdaoes.kjcito1omw4qN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > .... > > > To use clamshell mode you have to plug in an external display, so this > > > probably won't work unless you have a spare display lying around (and > > > suitable adapter). > > > > As it happens, I do have both these things! I have too much > > equipment. But I guess, if the external monitor has to actually > > be powered on, there seems little point just for the sake of > > closing the lid! > > The display doesn't have to be on: it just needs to be recognised by the > computer, and most VGA and DVI displays will work like this when powered > off. The identification circuitry in the display gets power over the > VGA/DVI connection from the computer. Well, well, that is neat! I might test this then. I have a spare LCD Viewsonic 20" which I can dedicate to the MacBook. And, in fact, when my new software arrives, I might even get to use it for real work and wean myself off my G4. About the main theme of this thread, I have just visited th epremises I might be moving to and there is a slight difference to what I imagined from phone conversations. There is a wireless router alright but the lady who uses it these days has her laptop connected via an ethernet cable. The wireless bit was for someone who was there before to connect to. There was no network on the airport panel (I took my MacBook). Looks like I will have to set it up from scratch by connecting via an ethernet cable and finding the address of the router (as I have done before here with my wireless router). There is no documentation or DVD available for it, but I should be able to hunt it up on the net. N -- dorayme
From: dorayme on 2 Feb 2010 01:57
In article <doraymeRidThis-1A4EF4.17435602022010(a)news.albasani.net>, dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > In article <1jdau4f.oletzaeaasdwN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > In article <1jdaoes.kjcito1omw4qN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > > > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > > > ... > > > > To use clamshell mode you have to plug in an external display, so this > > > > probably won't work unless you have a spare display lying around (and > > > > suitable adapter). > > > > > > As it happens, I do have both these things! I have too much > > > equipment. But I guess, if the external monitor has to actually > > > be powered on, there seems little point just for the sake of > > > closing the lid! > > > > The display doesn't have to be on: it just needs to be recognised by the > > computer, and most VGA and DVI displays will work like this when powered > > off. The identification circuitry in the display gets power over the > > VGA/DVI connection from the computer. > > Well, well, that is neat! I might test this then. I have a spare > LCD Viewsonic 20" which I can dedicate to the MacBook. And, in > fact, when my new software arrives, I might even get to use it > for real work and wean myself off my G4. > > About the main theme of this thread, I have just visited the > premises I might be moving to and there is a slight difference > to what I imagined from phone conversations. There is a wireless > router alright but the lady who uses it these days has her laptop > connected via an ethernet cable. The wireless bit was for someone > who was there before to connect to. There was no network on the > airport panel (I took my MacBook). Looks like I will have to set > it up from scratch by connecting via an ethernet cable and > finding the address of the router (as I have done before here > with my wireless router). There is no documentation or DVD > available for it, but I should be able to hunt it up on the net. N Oops, in reaching into my pocket for a bit of paper I fumbled and accidentally sent the above prematurely, don't ask! To continue: etgear 54 Mbps Wireless Router WGR 614 v7 But supposing I manage to sort this one out, will anything you have said before (about skype or anything else) be *affected* by that she is connected by ethernet cable to her wireless router and not wirelessly (as I previously thought). I will be connected via her wireless router to MacBook via Airport (hopefully) and my MacBook will connect via short ethernet cable to my G4. (Just btw, the long cable across the hallway is out! I was bold and mentioned it but it was immediately made clear it was unwelcome!) -- dorayme |