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From: Warren Oates on 2 Feb 2010 11:05 In article <1jdaoes.kjcito1omw4qN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > The MacBook will go to sleep when you close the lid, and you typically > press a key on an external USB keyboard to wake it up again. It won't > stay awake unless an external display is connected. I have a script that will wake it up remotely (I use it for waking the oul' Woman's MacBook up for backup); it's in PHP and I've probably used some nifty little thing that's only in PHP5. What OS are you running on the G4, Dorayme? I've got a G4 here, with 10.5.8, that I'm planning on connecting the same way as you. -- Very old woody beets will never cook tender. -- Fannie Farmer
From: David Empson on 2 Feb 2010 21:57 dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > In article <1jdau4f.oletzaeaasdwN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > > > > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > > > In article <1jdaoes.kjcito1omw4qN%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, > > > > dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > > > > > > ... > > > > > To use clamshell mode you have to plug in an external display, so this > > > > > probably won't work unless you have a spare display lying around (and > > > > > suitable adapter). > > > > > > > > As it happens, I do have both these things! I have too much > > > > equipment. But I guess, if the external monitor has to actually > > > > be powered on, there seems little point just for the sake of > > > > closing the lid! > > > > > > The display doesn't have to be on: it just needs to be recognised by the > > > computer, and most VGA and DVI displays will work like this when powered > > > off. The identification circuitry in the display gets power over the > > > VGA/DVI connection from the computer. > > > Well, well, that is neat! I might test this then. I have a spare > LCD Viewsonic 20" which I can dedicate to the MacBook. And, in > fact, when my new software arrives, I might even get to use it > for real work and wean myself off my G4. > > About the main theme of this thread, I have just visited the > premises I might be moving to and there is a slight difference > to what I imagined from phone conversations. There is a wireless > router alright but the lady who uses it these days has her laptop > connected via an ethernet cable. The wireless bit was for someone > who was there before to connect to. There was no network on the > airport panel (I took my MacBook). Looks like I will have to set > it up from scratch by connecting via an ethernet cable and > finding the address of the router (as I have done before here > with my wireless router). There is no documentation or DVD > available for it, but I should be able to hunt it up on the net. > Netgear 54 Mbps Wireless Router WGR 614 v7 Commonly available model, and Netgear's web site should have documentation (I have a copy of the PDF already). If you can't see a wireless network then either the wireless function has been disabled, or it is not broadcasting its SSID. At worst you (or the owner) will need to get into its configuration user interface and find out the details or enable/configure it as required. By default, Netgear routers use 192.168.1.1. The default username and password are "admin" and "password" for that model. If it asks you about a configuration wizard, click the no button and go into the manual setup. Its user interface is well organised with a list of categories down the left side. I've had occasional compatibility issues using Safari with the configuration user interface in Netgear routers, mainly when trying to do firmware updates. Firefox worked for firmware updates. > But supposing I manage to sort this one out, will anything you > have said before (about skype or anything else) be *affected* by > that she is connected by ethernet cable to her wireless router > and not wirelessly (as I previously thought). No. It doesn't make any difference if existing computers are connected wirelessly or via Ethernet. The Netgear's wireless network (if used) is just bridged to its Ethernet LAN ports, so they are all part of the same network as far as the Netgear is concerned. > I will be connected via her wireless router to MacBook via Airport > (hopefully) and my MacBook will connect via short ethernet cable to my G4. Your MacBook doing Internet Sharing will be creating a separate Ethernet network, with the MacBook acting as a NAT router between the Netgear's LAN and your LAN. > (Just btw, the long cable across the hallway is out! I was bold > and mentioned it but it was immediately made clear it was > unwelcome!) -- David Empson dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz
From: dorayme on 2 Feb 2010 22:31 In article <1jdch78.1ft5lc914yp2n2N%dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz>, dempson(a)actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) wrote: > dorayme <doraymeRidThis(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote: > > > > > About the main theme of this thread, I have just visited the > > premises I might be moving to and there is a slight difference > > to what I imagined from phone conversations. There is a wireless > > router alright but the lady who uses it these days has her laptop > > connected via an ethernet cable. The wireless bit was for someone > > who was there before to connect to. There was no network on the > > airport panel (I took my MacBook). Looks like I will have to set > > it up from scratch by connecting via an ethernet cable and > > finding the address of the router (as I have done before here > > with my wireless router). There is no documentation or DVD > > available for it, but I should be able to hunt it up on the net. > > Netgear 54 Mbps Wireless Router WGR 614 v7 > > Commonly available model, and Netgear's web site should have > documentation (I have a copy of the PDF already). > > If you can't see a wireless network then either the wireless function > has been disabled, or it is not broadcasting its SSID. > > At worst you (or the owner) will need to get into its configuration user > interface and find out the details or enable/configure it as required. > I saw a few wireless networks but owner had no idea about them. Most would have been close neighbours. But there was one that was named "Netgear" (I have now forgotten if there was a lock on it, perhaps not?) So perhaps this was something transmitting from the router (it is a separate router to the ADSL modem). Whoever used it wirelessly last year did set it up successfully and gave it a name and a password and when they left they perhaps did nothing but remove their own (cable-wise-unattached) gear. I might be able to find out if one of the locked named networks was set up by the folks who used the premises. In other words, one of the networks I saw might not have been a neighbour but the past occupier. I would be able to get password from them, the owner will contact them. I hope this makes sense! > By default, Netgear routers use 192.168.1.1. The default username and > password are "admin" and "password" for that model. If it asks you about > a configuration wizard, click the no button and go into the manual > setup. Its user interface is well organised with a list of categories > down the left side. > > I've had occasional compatibility issues using Safari with the > configuration user interface in Netgear routers, mainly when trying to > do firmware updates. Firefox worked for firmware updates. > Good point, I will get FF onto my MacBook > > But supposing I manage to sort this one out, will anything you > > have said before (about skype or anything else) be *affected* by > > that she is connected by ethernet cable to her wireless router > > and not wirelessly (as I previously thought). > > No. It doesn't make any difference if existing computers are connected > wirelessly or via Ethernet. > > The Netgear's wireless network (if used) is just bridged to its Ethernet > LAN ports, so they are all part of the same network as far as the > Netgear is concerned. > > > I will be connected via her wireless router to MacBook via Airport > > (hopefully) and my MacBook will connect via short ethernet cable to my G4. > > Your MacBook doing Internet Sharing will be creating a separate Ethernet > network, with the MacBook acting as a NAT router between the Netgear's > LAN and your LAN. > -- dorayme
From: erilar on 3 Feb 2010 16:17
I don't have the original post at hand, but thought I'd mention my similar setup. I have a G4 sitting next to my new laptop. It has an Ethernet connection to my Airport. My "network" consists of the two of them and a new printer/scanner. From the "point of view" of the laptop it's all wireless. The G4 "sees" it as an Ethernet connection. Pretty simple. Until my 10+-year-old printer died recently, the G4 had to run the printer and scanner, because they were too old to update. It IS rather nice being able to print from the laptop now. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist http://www.chibardun.net/~erilarlo |