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From: Martin S Taylor on 14 Jul 2010 03:53
Graham J wrote
>> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
>> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
>> the end of the garden.
>
> All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use - so an
> Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an additional
> problem.

No, I have ethernet for my main need, but I do need wireless for casual
iPhone connection.

Now, is the router JonB suggested (Netgear WNR1000 N150) as good as it gets,
or does anyone have any better ideas?

MST

From: Woody on 14 Jul 2010 04:15
Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:
> Graham J wrote
>>> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
>>> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit
> > > at
>>> the end of the garden.
>>
>> All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use -
> > so an
>> Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an
> > additional
>> problem.
>
> No, I have ethernet for my main need, but I do need wireless for
> casual
> iPhone connection.
>
> Now, is the router JonB suggested (Netgear WNR1000 N150) as good as it
> gets,
> or does anyone have any better ideas?

I am sure it is fine, most of them are for most people. people swear by
although never had much luck with them myself.

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From: T i m on 14 Jul 2010 04:24
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 08:53:45 +0100, Martin S Taylor
<mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

>Graham J wrote
>>> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
>>> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
>>> the end of the garden.
>>
>> All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use - so an
>> Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an additional
>> problem.
>
>No, I have ethernet for my main need, but I do need wireless for casual
>iPhone connection.
>
>Now, is the router JonB suggested (Netgear WNR1000 N150) as good as it gets,
>or does anyone have any better ideas?
>
I'm pretty sure it's not as good as it gets, depending on what you
want etc.

For example, my Fritz!Box router does both ADSL or Cable, has two
telephone ports for VoIP phones and a line connection to allow you to
integrate said phones onto your PSTN service. It also has a USB port
that can host a hard drive that can be accessed by a built in FTP
server and power management features so you can (say) turn off the
WiFi at certain times.

It's only 100M and 802.11g but I have an 8 port Gb switch in front of
it for more ports and local LAN traffic in any case.

I rarely have to touch it (certainly never this weekly reset nonsense)
and I've had it for a few years now.

I was given a D-Link 'n' - wireless cable router a while back but I
think their setup stuff is weird (so it remains as a spare).

A mate bought an 'n' spec router to go with a new 'n' spec laptop but
had no better service than with 'g'. We now think he may have
foil-backed plasterboard walls framing the room containing the router
(I've seen that a few times now). ;-(

http://www.fritzbox.eu/en/products/FRITZBox_Fon_WLAN_7270/index.php

Cheers, T i m


From: zoara on 14 Jul 2010 05:53
"Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
> "Sara Merriman" <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:saramerriman-9A64CC.08044314072010(a)news.individual.net...
>> In article <4c3c9e02$0$12157$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
>> "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Sorry to be so negative - but if you put in proper cat5 cables
> > > you'll
>>> never
>>> look back.
>>
>> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
>> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
>> the end of the garden.
>
> All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use -

Huh?

Our house has two iPhones, two laptops, an iPad and a Squeezebox
Controller, all of which are only ever on mains when recharging [1] and
we certainly get a "realistic duration of use" out of all of them. Or is
there some other definition of "realistic" that I've missed?

The only machine in our house that is ever connected by Ethernet is the
Mac mini in the loft. The only machines that would actually make good
use of wired-in Ethernet are the Squeezebox Receiver (the bit connected
to the stereo, not the Controller which is a handheld remote) and my
MacBook Pro - but the latter would be a benefit rather than a hassle in
no more than 10% of cases.

In fact, once Han's MacBook gets sold, the majority of the networked
devices in our house won't even have Ethernet ports anyway - three will,
four won't.

-z-


[1] Except my MacBook Pro when the battery was dying

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From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 14 Jul 2010 06:01
On 14 Jul 2010 08:15:15 GMT, Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

>"Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
>> "Sara Merriman" <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:saramerriman-9A64CC.08044314072010(a)news.individual.net...
>>> In article <4c3c9e02$0$12157$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
>>> "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry to be so negative - but if you put in proper cat5 cables
>> > > you'll
>>>> never
>>>> look back.
>>>
>>> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
>>> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
>>> the end of the garden.
>>
>> All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use -

You may be doing something wrong... I get 5+ hours working time out of
any of my portable kit, which is plenty.

>> so an
>> Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an
>> additional problem.
>
>Really doesn't. My iPad gives me a good 10 hours and doesn't have an
>ethernet socket. My living room is wireless for our 2 laptops, with
>wires to the fixed computers upstairs. Wouldn't be able to go back to
>wires in the living room

Network wires are a terrible old-fashioned nonsense for laptops and
other portable kit. Static kit, sure.

Wires in general are terrible, in my opine. Can't wait for viable
alternatives for all these USB/video/audio/etc cables.

Cheers - Jaimie
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