From: Sak Wathanasin on
On 12 July, 16:27, Martin S Taylor <m...(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk>
wrote:

> Requirements: very strong Wi-Fi output, since we live under a network of
> slate roofs, and the signal deteriorates hugely from one end of the flat to
> the other. The latest Wi-Fi connectivity (802.11n?) is probably a good idea,
> too, as I understand the iPhone 4 will give faster connexion speeds with
> Wireless-N.

Oh yes, iPad + 'N' give v smooth streaming video.
From: eastender on
In article <0001HW.C860F30701D87B75B02919BF(a)news.virginmedia.com>,
Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:


> What's the current recommendation of the group for a wireless router to
> connect to a cable modem? (Apparently it has to be a different kind of router
> from the one used to connect to an ADSL modem - why is this?)

As Jon says - a bog standard router with an Ethernet connection from the
modem is fine. I've been using a wired Netgear 614 for several years now
with no problem on Telewest/Virgin, and a wireless ADSL Netgear 834
(just as a hub) as a wireless access point upstairs.

I dare say the latter would also work as a main router off the cable
modem even though its an ADSL box, with the modem feed in one of the
four Ethernet ports - anyone confirm that?

E.
From: Martin S Taylor on
Graham J wrote
> Don't bother with wireless, lay in some Ethernet cables!

Oh, but we have! First thing I did when I moved into the flat five years ago.
(I might have made a cup of tea first, but not much more.)

> All Wi-Fi devices have nominally the same maximum power output, since they
> are limited by design to the requirements for license-free operation. The
> only way you can achieve any improvement in performance is by increasing
> receiver gain (either by use of a directional antenna, or by better receiver
> design). So performance will depend on the transceiver module in the laptop
> or whatever at least as much as the Access Point.
>
> A realistic rule of thumb is that wireless doesn't travel through walls. So
> it's really only practical to use it within a room, rather than
> room-to-room. You can sometimes get a signal through modern stud & plaster
> walls ...

In my last (Victorian) house I had no trouble with the signal from top to
bottom of a three storey house.

> Do you have to use the laptop or whatever actually while moving about?
> That's really the only justification for wireless!

It's just convenient when using the iPhone in the lounge. All phone networks
are dire where I live, and the only reliable way to connect to the Internet
on the iPhone is by WiFi. I don't want to leave my warm seat in front of the
telly every ten minutes when I'm expecting an important e-mail.

> A cabled connection will guarantee you 100mbits/sec (or possibly gigabit)
> throughput bi-directionally, so is necessary to achieve any realistic
> file-sharing or backup. Wireless doesn't guarantee anything, although it
> generally beats an ADSL connection. Given that you have a cable service,
> the last thing you should do is stunt its bandwidth by using wireless!
>
> Sorry to be so negative - but if you put in proper cat5 cables you'll never
> look back.

All noted, but I do need the WiFi, and from other postings it seems that
802.11n is appreciably better than g or b.

MST

From: Sara Merriman on
In article <4c3c9e02$0$12157$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
"Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:

>
> Sorry to be so negative - but if you put in proper cat5 cables you'll never
> look back.

Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
the end of the garden.

--
Sara

Cuddler of rats, cats and husband
From: Graham J on

"Sara Merriman" <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:saramerriman-9A64CC.08044314072010(a)news.individual.net...
> In article <4c3c9e02$0$12157$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
> "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> Sorry to be so negative - but if you put in proper cat5 cables you'll
>> never
>> look back.
>
> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
> the end of the garden.

All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use - so an
Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an additional
problem.

--
Graham J