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From: Peter Ceresole on 14 Jul 2010 06:27
Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:

> Wires in general are terrible, in my opine. Can't wait for viable
> alternatives for all these USB/video/audio/etc cables.

I originally stayed with Ethernet for reasons of speed, but since
getting a DG834N that seems less important; 'N' wifi networking is nice
and quick.

Okay, it wouldn't make the grade at CERN, but it's easily quick enough
for most normal use.

For tweaking the router, there's always an Ethernet cable that lives
under the carpet.
--
Peter
From: Sara on 14 Jul 2010 06:58
In article <4c3d6900$0$12162$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
"Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:

> "Sara Merriman" <saramerriman(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:saramerriman-9A64CC.08044314072010(a)news.individual.net...
> > In article <4c3c9e02$0$12157$fa0fcedb(a)news.zen.co.uk>,
> > "Graham J" <graham(a)invalid> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Sorry to be so negative - but if you put in proper cat5 cables you'll
> >> never
> >> look back.
> >
> > Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
> > Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
> > the end of the garden.
>
> All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use - so an
> Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an additional
> problem.

That depends what you call a realistic duration of use. If I want to
spend Sunday afternoon in the garden with my iPhone controlling iTunes
to my garden speakers, I don't need power leads. Neither do I if I want
to spend a couple of hours on the lappy. I've watched whole movies at
the end of the garden without a problem.

--
Sara

Run out of ideas for a sig for the moment
From: Jaimie Vandenbergh on 14 Jul 2010 08:08
On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:27:48 +0100, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter
Ceresole) wrote:

>Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie(a)sometimes.sessile.org> wrote:
>
>> Wires in general are terrible, in my opine. Can't wait for viable
>> alternatives for all these USB/video/audio/etc cables.

And landline phones/base stations, that's the other one I was thinking
of.

>I originally stayed with Ethernet for reasons of speed, but since
>getting a DG834N that seems less important; 'N' wifi networking is nice
>and quick.

It is indeed - generally faster than 100Mb ethernet, in my experience,
so unless you need the extra gigabit speed there's not much point
using wires.

Almost all of my voluminous stuff that might actually want faster
speeds lives entirely on my NAS (it has a download manager) so only
needs to be streamed round the house at a few megabits/sec. 802.11n is
fine for a few dozen gigs of Time Machine backup too.

And both my old Netgear 834N and the current Airport Extreme are
visible throughout my house, from cellar to attic bedrooms. 1890's
stone terrace with reasonably sturdy inside walls.

>For tweaking the router, there's always an Ethernet cable that lives
>under the carpet.

Just by chance, there's a large rubber mallet less than 6 inches away
from my router which has worked perfectly for several years now.
Coincidence?

Cheers - Jaimie
--
My swerver room, my patch panels. By the time they figure out why none of the
ports on their floor box work anymore I'll be done, dusted and down the pub
with a pint of something brewed with yeast that was smarter than they are.
-- Matt S Trout, asr
From: Martin S Taylor on 15 Jul 2010 07:18
Jon B wrote
> I'd probably look at something like this
> <http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=8032>

That's the Netgear WNR1000 N150 RangeMax Wireless-N Broadband Router
(150Mbps).

I've checked with Netgear, and they say this doesn't support 802.11n (though
their tech support people *really* didn't sound knowledgeable). They say I
need the WNDR3300

The spec sheets for the router say: "Requirements 802.11n draft 2.0 adapter".
Is this in addition to the router, or is this talking about what you need at
the computer end of the line? Will it give 802.11n with my iPhone 4?

I'm confused....

MST

From: Jon B on 15 Jul 2010 12:12
Martin S Taylor <mst(a)hRyEpMnOoVtEiTsHm.cIo.uSk> wrote:

> Graham J wrote
> >> Unless you have lots of mobile equipment, like laptops and iPhones.
> >> Wiring is great for static stuff, not so good when you want to sit at
> >> the end of the garden.
> >
> > All such stuff needs mains power for any realistic duration of use - so an
> > Ethernet cable tralied out across the lawn isn't so much of an additional
> > problem.
>
> No, I have ethernet for my main need, but I do need wireless for casual
> iPhone connection.
>
> Now, is the router JonB suggested (Netgear WNR1000 N150) as good as it gets,
> or does anyone have any better ideas?
>
All comes down to budget really. Picked the Netgear down to being middle
of the road pricing & one of the better consumer makes [1].

I like Zyxel kit for reliability at work
<http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=8842>
but it doubles the price, as does the Netgear WNDR3300
<http://www.broadbandbuyer.co.uk/Shop/ShopDetail.asp?ProductID=5319>
Quick research on a Fritz box mentioned elsewhere triples the price.

Remember N may be useful, but 54G is 54mbps and most broadband
connections rarely exceed 10mbps..., so if it's just for internet usage
the additional speed doesn't gain much. If you're wanting to backup over
wifi, or stream video etc then the etc speed could be a bonus.

[1] and with any of these there's always going to be people that have
had 'issues'. I've had them with Buffalo, Linksys, Woody has evidently
had them with Netgear...
--
Jon B
Above email address IS valid.
<http://www.bramley-computers.co.uk/> Apple Laptop Repairs.
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