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From: zz on 12 Jan 2010 02:06 Sorry newbie question, can wireless networks be detected from a regular wired 'grounded' network machine?...or does the machine your using have to be on a wireless network in order to detect other wireless networks? Thanks in advance.
From: Lem on 12 Jan 2010 10:27 zz wrote: > Sorry newbie question, can wireless networks be detected from a regular > wired 'grounded' network machine?...or does the machine your using have to > be on a wireless network in order to detect other wireless networks? Thanks > in advance. > > You need a wireless adapter to detect wireless networks. Whether you are connected to a network, wired or wireless, is not relevant. Wireless = radio. You need a radio receiver (and a transmitter) to interact with a wireless network. -- Lem Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
From: zz on 12 Jan 2010 11:06 Thanks for the info Lem, appreciate it. Another newb question, can wireless network monitoring software then track one's wireless activity when say browsing the internet and sending/receiving personal emails from their own cell phone device with one's own cell phone carrier? "Lem" <lemp40(a)unknownhost> wrote in message news:%23zzpBv5kKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > zz wrote: >> Sorry newbie question, can wireless networks be detected from a regular >> wired 'grounded' network machine?...or does the machine your using have >> to be on a wireless network in order to detect other wireless networks? >> Thanks in advance. > > You need a wireless adapter to detect wireless networks. Whether you are > connected to a network, wired or wireless, is not relevant. > > Wireless = radio. You need a radio receiver (and a transmitter) to > interact with a wireless network. > > -- > Lem > > Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: > http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html
From: Jack [MVP-Networking] on 12 Jan 2010 14:33 Hi Any Wireless signal can be intercepted while it is in the Air. If the information that is in the signal is Not encrypted it can be easily used by others. Wireless Telephones encrypted the signal by default. Wireless computers have to be set to encrypt the signal. In general. From the weakest to the strongest, Wireless security capacity is. No Security Switching Off SSID (same has No Security. SSID can be easily sniffed even if it is Off) MAC Filtering______(Band Aid if nothing else is available, MAC number can be easily Spoofed). WEP64____(Easy, to "Break" by knowledgeable people). WEP128___(A little Harder, but "Hackable" too). ------------------- The three above are Not considered safe. Safe Starts here at WPA. ------------------- WPA-PSK__(Very Hard to Break). WPA-AES__(Not functionally Breakable) WPA2____ (Not functionally Breakable). Note 1: WPA-AES the the current entry level rendition of WPA2. Note 2: If you use WinXP bellow SP3 and did not updated it, you would have to download the WPA2 patch from Microsoft. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357 The documentation of your Wireless devices (Wireless Router, and Wireless Computer's Card) should state the type of security that is available with your Wireless hardware. All devices MUST be set to the same security level using the same pass phrase. Therefore the security must be set according what ever is the best possible of one of the Wireless devices. I.e. even if most of your system might be capable to be configured to the max. with WPA2, but one device is only capable to be configured to max . of WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP. If you need more good security and one device (like a Wireless card that can do WEP only) is holding better security for the whole Network, replace the device with a better one. Setting Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html The Core differences between WEP, WPA, and WPA2 - http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html Jack (MVP-Networking). "zz" <zz(a)zz.com> wrote in message news:ekIl$E6kKHA.4872(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Thanks for the info Lem, appreciate it. Another newb question, can > wireless network monitoring software then track one's wireless activity > when say browsing the internet and sending/receiving personal emails from > their own cell phone device with one's own cell phone carrier? > > > "Lem" <lemp40(a)unknownhost> wrote in message > news:%23zzpBv5kKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >> zz wrote: >>> Sorry newbie question, can wireless networks be detected from a regular >>> wired 'grounded' network machine?...or does the machine your using have >>> to be on a wireless network in order to detect other wireless networks? >>> Thanks in advance. >> >> You need a wireless adapter to detect wireless networks. Whether you are >> connected to a network, wired or wireless, is not relevant. >> >> Wireless = radio. You need a radio receiver (and a transmitter) to >> interact with a wireless network. >> >> -- >> Lem >> >> Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: >> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html > >
From: zz on 12 Jan 2010 22:39 So when using a Windows Mobile 6.1 device is used as 'tethering' a single pc with a cell phone carrier's service then assuming the obvious that the signal can be detected when monitored by a wireless software detection tool (from a different machine on a different network within it's proximity) would it be up to the cell phone carrier if it's encrypted or is there a setting on the cell phone device that lists it? Thanks to both, very interesting. "Jack [MVP-Networking]" <jack(a)discussiongroup.com> wrote in message news:OwHDd47kKHA.2164(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... > Hi > Any Wireless signal can be intercepted while it is in the Air. > If the information that is in the signal is Not encrypted it can be easily > used by others. > Wireless Telephones encrypted the signal by default. > Wireless computers have to be set to encrypt the signal. > In general. > From the weakest to the strongest, Wireless security capacity is. > No Security > Switching Off SSID (same has No Security. SSID can be easily sniffed even > if it is Off) > MAC Filtering______(Band Aid if nothing else is available, MAC number can > be easily Spoofed). > WEP64____(Easy, to "Break" by knowledgeable people). > WEP128___(A little Harder, but "Hackable" too). > ------------------- > The three above are Not considered safe. > Safe Starts here at WPA. > ------------------- > WPA-PSK__(Very Hard to Break). > WPA-AES__(Not functionally Breakable) > WPA2____ (Not functionally Breakable). > Note 1: WPA-AES the the current entry level rendition of WPA2. > Note 2: If you use WinXP bellow SP3 and did not updated it, you would have > to download the WPA2 patch from Microsoft. > http://support.microsoft.com/kb/893357 > The documentation of your Wireless devices (Wireless Router, and Wireless > Computer's Card) should state the type of security that is available with > your Wireless hardware. > All devices MUST be set to the same security level using the same pass > phrase. > Therefore the security must be set according what ever is the best > possible of one of the Wireless devices. > I.e. even if most of your system might be capable to be configured to the > max. with WPA2, but one device is only capable to be configured to max . > of WEP, to whole system must be configured to WEP. > If you need more good security and one device (like a Wireless card that > can do WEP only) is holding better security for the whole Network, replace > the device with a better one. > Setting Wireless Security - http://www.ezlan.net/Wireless_Security.html > The Core differences between WEP, WPA, and WPA2 - > http://www.ezlan.net/wpa_wep.html > Jack (MVP-Networking). > > > "zz" <zz(a)zz.com> wrote in message > news:ekIl$E6kKHA.4872(a)TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> Thanks for the info Lem, appreciate it. Another newb question, can >> wireless network monitoring software then track one's wireless activity >> when say browsing the internet and sending/receiving personal emails from >> their own cell phone device with one's own cell phone carrier? >> >> >> "Lem" <lemp40(a)unknownhost> wrote in message >> news:%23zzpBv5kKHA.2160(a)TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... >>> zz wrote: >>>> Sorry newbie question, can wireless networks be detected from a regular >>>> wired 'grounded' network machine?...or does the machine your using have >>>> to be on a wireless network in order to detect other wireless networks? >>>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> You need a wireless adapter to detect wireless networks. Whether you are >>> connected to a network, wired or wireless, is not relevant. >>> >>> Wireless = radio. You need a radio receiver (and a transmitter) to >>> interact with a wireless network. >>> >>> -- >>> Lem >>> >>> Apollo 11 - 40 years ago: >>> http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/40th/index.html >> >> >
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