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From: mpc755 on 19 Dec 2009 15:12 On Dec 19, 2:57 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Yes, mpc, it does throw out the tg and Yes, a unified theory does > emerge. But not the way you think. > In the 1970s an experiment was performed which, to me, was the > second one since M&M that imposed a radical change in our metaphysical > principles. It was the Pan American experiment which flew two cesium > clocks around the earth in opposite directions and then compared their > times to a third identical clock that had remained at rest on earth. > Contrary to my expectation that nothing would happen to clocks at > rest inside a closed chamber in which THE LOCAL MEDIUM (air) WAS AT > REST, the clock flown in the same direction as Earth's surface moves > ran slowest, the one flown in the opposite direction ran fastest, and > the third one's rate was somewhere in between. I therefore had to > change my metaphysics for the first time since I wrote it up in 1965. > Here, mpc, is what I had to change: It was evident from the Pan Am > result that the effect of a closed chamber's motion through an outside > medium PENETRATES THE WALLS and everything inside of the chamber. > Although I should have known that -- because a compressible material > out of which the walls AND the air and everything else is made would > automatically be compressed by the resistance of the displaced > material through which it flew -- I had elected to let the effects > stop at the surface of any solid wall. THAT, believe it or not, was > the first time I had to change my metaphysics, even though mine > disagrees with present dogma at every step of the very long way. > > So, mpc, how do YOU explain the Pan Am experiment? > > glird If you apply the Michelson-Morley Experiment apparatus which was built because light traveling with and against the 'flow' of aether would be different than the light traveling North and South. This is what is occurring for the atoms oscillations relative to the aether, which means the aether is penetrating the plain which leaves the question how is momentum able to be maintained if the aether is moving through matter?
From: glird on 19 Dec 2009 16:10 On Dec 19, 3:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 19, 2:57 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > ...cut... > > This is unreadable. What was unreadable? > Can you use Google groups? As shown by the address copied from the browser's search bar and pasted below, sci.physics.relativity IS a google group: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_thread/... .. glird
From: glird on 19 Dec 2009 16:31 On Dec 19, 3:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 19, 2:57 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > Yes, mpc, it does throw out the tg and Yes, a unified theory does emerge. But not the way you think. > > In the 1970s an experiment was performed which, to me, was the second one since M&M that imposed a radical change in our metaphysical principles. It was the Pan American experiment which flew two cesium clocks around the earth in opposite directions and then compared their times to a third identical clock that had remained at rest on earth. > > Contrary to my expectation that nothing would happen to clocks at rest inside a closed chamber in which THE LOCAL MEDIUM (air) WAS AT REST, the clock flown in the same direction as Earth's surface moves ran slowest, the one flown in the opposite direction ran fastest, and the third one's rate was somewhere in between. I therefore had to change my metaphysics for the first time since I wrote it up in 1965. > > Here, mpc, is what I had to change: It was evident from the Pan Am result that the effect of a closed chamber's motion through an outside medium PENETRATES THE WALLS and everything inside of the chamber. Although I should have known that -- because a compressible material out of which the walls AND the air and everything else is made would automatically be compressed by the resistance of the displaced material through which it flew -- I had elected to let the effects stop at the surface of any solid wall. THAT, believe it or not, was the first time I had to change my metaphysics, even though mine disagrees with present dogma at every step of the very long way. So, mpc, how do YOU explain the Pan Am experiment? glird >> > ><If you apply the Michelson-Morley Experiment apparatus which was built because {the speed of} light traveling with and against the 'flow' of aether would be different than {that of} the light traveling North and South. This is what is occurring for the atoms oscillations relative to the aether, which means the aether is penetrating the plain which leaves the question how is momentum able to be maintained if the aether is moving through matter? > Please clarify your answer to my question by explaining HOW it explains the Pan Am results. Btw, there were NO measurements taken wrt beams traveling perpendicular to the line of flight of the planes or to the one at rest on the ground. Furthermore -- and one of the reasons for these discussions -- there was and is no aether flowing through the solid walls of the planes nor any other solid (or liquid) body. glird
From: Sam Wormley on 19 Dec 2009 19:31 On 12/19/09 1:33 PM, mpc755 wrote: > > Why is everyone who is adamant in the correctness of SR in so much of > a state of denial as to be unwilling to answer the following question? > Easy answer: Excellent agreement with observations. Physics FAQ: What is the experimental basis of Special Relativity? http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/Relativity/SR/experiments.html
From: mpc755 on 19 Dec 2009 20:28
On Dec 19, 4:10 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Dec 19, 3:01 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 19, 2:57 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > > ...cut... > > > This is unreadable. > > What was unreadable? > > > Can you use Google groups? > > As shown by the address copied from the browser's search bar and > pasted below, sci.physics.relativity IS a google group:http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_thread/... > . > > glird Your posts are very difficult to follow in Google groups. Figuring out what you are replying to is difficult. Take a look at: http://groups.google.com/group/sci.physics.relativity/browse_frm/thread/a42a790cf0117579?scoring=d& |