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From: spudnik on 31 Dec 2009 19:36 de Broglie's proof that every object has a frequency, is pretty much coherent with "how am I measuring this thing?" to say that an eectron, atom or molecule of C_2n will behave in a wavy manner, is strcitly bound to the appareatus that can measure that -- is tuned to detect such a frequency. that is, if water can "wave" through a breakwater, why can't C_60 wave through a breakfullerene? when doing electron diffraction through a crystal, to obtain it's crystallographic pattern, do you have to rely on the "particle nature" of an electron -- what ever that is? do we always have to conform to Galileo's atomic heresy? (this is a lot of fun, but I really have to get teh **** out of here .-) > The one where a C-60 molecule, 60 interconnected atoms, can enter, > travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without > requiring energy, releasing energy or having a change in momentum > because you designated it a wave. thus: yes, but Alfven was using, itself (plasma), to propogate EM -- and the Alfven waves -- not some "undefined principle" of aether. there is nothing wrong with undefineds in axiomatic development, but that isn't necessary, today, with "atoms." > "Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) (magnetofluiddynamics or hydromagnetics) > is the academic discipline which studies the dynamics of electrically > conducting fluids. Examples of such fluids include plasmas, liquid > metals, and salt water. The word magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) is derived > from magneto- meaning magnetic field, and hydro- meaning liquid, and - > dynamics meaning movement. The field of MHD was initiated by Hannes > Alfvén[1], for which he received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1970. > The idea of MHD is that magnetic fields can induce currents in a > moving conductive fluid, which create forces on the fluid, and also > change the magnetic field itself." thus: there is no vacuum for the red to shift in, although Alfven had postulated that only matter-antimatter annhialation was the only possible source of energy to expand Universe -- I just read! --Brit's hate Shakespeare, Why? http://wlym.com/campaigner/8011.pdf --Madame Rice is a Riceist, How?
From: mpc755 on 31 Dec 2009 20:24 On Dec 31, 6:43 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > yes, but Alfven was using matter, itself, > to propogate EM -- and the Alfven waves -- > not some "undefined principle" of aether. there > is nothing wrong with undefineds in axiomatic development, but > that isn't necessary, today, with "atoms." > But the matter exists in something. The matter does not exist in a void, or there would be no propagation of anything. > > The quotes below are similar to the concept of the magnetic field > > being flowing aether or aether waves. > > "Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) (magnetofluiddynamics or hydromagnetics) > > is the academic discipline which studies the dynamics of electrically > > conducting fluids. Examples of such fluids include plasmas, liquid > > metals, and salt water. The word magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) is derived > > from magneto- meaning magnetic field, and hydro- meaning liquid, and - > > dynamics meaning movement. The field of MHD was initiated by Hannes > > Alfvén[1], for which he received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1970. > > The idea of MHD is that magnetic fields can induce currents in a > > moving conductive fluid, which create forces on the fluid, and also > > change the magnetic field itself." > > there is no vacuum for the red to shift in, although > Alfven had postulated that only matter-antimatter annhialation > was the only possible source of energy to expand Universe -- > I just read! > > 2 26 Antimatter, Quasi-Stellar Objects and the Evolution of Galaxies, > 1969. > > --Brit's hate Shakespeare, Why?http://wlym.com/campaigner/8011.pdf > --Madame Rice is a Riceist, How?
From: mpc755 on 31 Dec 2009 20:26 On Dec 31, 7:36 pm, spudnik <Space...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > de Broglie's proof that every object has a frequency, > is pretty much coherent with "how am I measuring this thing?" > > to say that an eectron, atom or molecule of C_2n will behave > in a wavy manner, is strcitly bound to the appareatus that can measure > that > -- is tuned to detect such a frequency. that is, if > water can "wave" through a breakwater, why can't C_60 wave > through a breakfullerene? > Because the water is not "waving". It is the aether contained within the H2O molecules which is doing the waving. > when doing electron diffraction through a crystal, > to obtain it's crystallographic pattern, > do you have to rely on the "particle nature" of an electron > -- what ever that is? > > do we always have to conform to Galileo's atomic heresy? > > (this is a lot of fun, but > I really have to get teh **** out of here .-) > > > The one where a C-60 molecule, 60 interconnected atoms, can enter, > > travel through, and exit multiple slits simultaneously without > > requiring energy, releasing energy or having a change in momentum > > because you designated it a wave. > > thus: > yes, but Alfven was using, itself (plasma), > to propogate EM -- and the Alfven waves -- > not some "undefined principle" of aether. there > is nothing wrong with undefineds in axiomatic development, but > that isn't necessary, today, with "atoms." > > > "Magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) (magnetofluiddynamics or hydromagnetics) > > is the academic discipline which studies the dynamics of electrically > > conducting fluids. Examples of such fluids include plasmas, liquid > > metals, and salt water. The word magnetohydrodynamics (MHD) is derived > > from magneto- meaning magnetic field, and hydro- meaning liquid, and - > > dynamics meaning movement. The field of MHD was initiated by Hannes > > Alfvén[1], for which he received the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1970. > > The idea of MHD is that magnetic fields can induce currents in a > > moving conductive fluid, which create forces on the fluid, and also > > change the magnetic field itself." > > thus: > there is no vacuum for the red to shift in, although > Alfven had postulated that only matter-antimatter annhialation > was the only possible source of energy to expand Universe -- > I just read! > > --Brit's hate Shakespeare, Why?http://wlym.com/campaigner/8011.pdf > --Madame Rice is a Riceist, How?
From: glird on 31 Dec 2009 21:52 HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
From: mpc755 on 31 Dec 2009 22:11
On Dec 31, 9:52 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > HAPPY NEW YEAR!!! Happy New Year to you and everyone else! |