From: fpga_toys on 30 Jan 2006 15:38 Austin Lesea wrote: > "XDL and related info being a public use interface to ISE outside of NDA > restrictions" is clearly prohibited. Thanks Austin for making this clear. You mentioned that Xilinx provides exemptions to university projects. There is significant documentation to be gleaned from various published works which are easily located with google. Most of these appear to be university sources. Can we assume that source code, VDL files, papers, and instructional materials which describe VDL and related interfaces are approved disclosures by Xilinx that open source can freely use to develop open source tools in support of Xilinx customers? John
From: Austin Lesea on 30 Jan 2006 15:54 John, No, you can not assume anything. In fact, I think you (personally) should talk to our legal department, and reach an agreement. Austin
From: Austin Lesea on 30 Jan 2006 15:56 Jan, Xilinx restricts the use of the bitstream to only be used with its products. In that sense, we retain "ownership." I am not a lawyer, so I can't speak or quote legalize. What I placed in quotes was from a lawyer. They do not make typos. I might. Austin
From: Austin Lesea on 30 Jan 2006 16:13 Correction: See I can make typos... Austin > In that sense, we retain "ownership." I am not a lawyer, so I can't > speak or quote legalize. What I placed in quotes IN MY PREVIOUS POSTING > was from a lawyer.
From: Ed McGettigan on 30 Jan 2006 16:18
Jim Granville wrote: > Jan Panteltje wrote: >> On a sunny day (Mon, 30 Jan 2006 09:50:46 -0800) it happened Austin Lesea >> <austin(a)xilinx.com> wrote in <drljlm$3ls1(a)xco-news.xilinx.com>: >> >> >>> All: >>> >>> From our legal group- >> >> >>> Also, the bitstream created by using Xilinx software is owned >>> by Xilinx can only be used on Xilinx programmable products, for example, >>> FPGAs. > > Hmm, yes, not everyone will agree to that claim... > >> >> This looks like a rather dangerous typo, I presume you wanted to write: >> >> "the bitstream format as generated by Xilinx software " >> You do not claim rights to the content of my bitstream I hope? > > Of course they do! > These are lawyers, they claim all rights possible, until someone > pushes back. That's how they work. > > I _can_ sense an opening here, for the (A) company that claims > to be "the fastest growing major programmable logic company in 2005" > > -jg > > The (A) company used these exact same EULA restrictions against Clear Logic and won. More details here: http://www.internetcases.com/archives/2005/09/ninth_circuit_a_1.html Ed |