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From: Joerg on 28 Jul 2010 20:39 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:29 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> Jim Thompson wrote: >>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:39:23 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>> wrote: >>> >>> [snip] >>>> This ought to be _the_ real car, and I believe they make or plan to make >>>> an electric one: >>>> >>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-29213-Honda-and-Acura-Examiner~y2010m3d15-The-upcoming-Mercedes-AMG-SLS-GullWing-Coupe-is-a-unique-return-to-form >>>> >>>> AFAIK the electric one takes 4sec from 0-60mph while the gasoline >>>> version is a couple hundred msec zippier. >>> Actually that's surprising... DC motors have low-speed torque out the >>> kazoo. >>> >>> As electric vehicles get tweaked-up I expect them to beat >>> gasoline-powered... at least off-the-line. >>> >> The torque is just the problem. AFAIK some electric vehicles had to be >> throttled down a bit. Even the Tesla supposedly "ate" transmissions >> early on. >> >> I guess delivering the juice to the motor also has its limits. >> >> >>> I don't know if any of you recognize the name, Glen Madland? He >>> founded ICE (Integrated Circuit Engineering) along with Howard Dicken. >>> I was the ghost writer of all the training courses (at night, daytime >>> at Moto). >>> >>> Glen and his son used to make dragsters using around 100V worth of >>> lead acid and starter motors ;-) >>> >>> So fast off-the-line they had to use helmet straps to prevent broken >>> necks ;-) >>> >> Even the builders of electric vehicles aren't immune to the acceleration >> surprise, see 2nd half: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o15EALghp0 > > Glen and son replaced starter motors after each "sprint" :-) > What for is a starter motor in an electric vehicle? Or did they use those as the main motor? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Joerg on 28 Jul 2010 20:40 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:14:54 -0700, John Larkin > <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:15:18 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" >> <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:55:05 -0700, John Larkin >>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:46:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:39:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:09:02 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>>>>>>>>>>> >from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). >>>>>>>>>>> In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >>>>>>>>>>> as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >>>>>>>>>>> wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >>>>>>>>>>> receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >>>>>>>>>>> disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >>>>>>>>>>> it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) >>>>>>>>>> Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a >>>>>>>>>> web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or >>>>>>>>>> "antiquing", either. ;-) >>>>>>>>> It depends. Last week I stayed in a hotel in Mountain View where faux >>>>>>>>> painting was done so well that it made you feel like you were in a >>>>>>>>> mediterranean resort. The weird thing is they combined that with modern >>>>>>>>> furniture, could have been Art Deco, don't know this stuff, but it >>>>>>>>> looked really cool. Great place, and one of the best (free) breakfasts I >>>>>>>>> ever had. It's this one: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> http://www.hotelzico.com/ >>>>>>>> Nice! How much $ ?? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regular around $130/night. Keep in mind it's right next to a freeway but >>>>>>> that didn't bother me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The client engineer I traveled with has this habit of booking everything >>>>>>> last minute on hotwire.com. You select how many stars and click on >>>>>>> "book", without knowing which hotel and exactly where. Once the bid is >>>>>>> booked you are told hotel and location. This got us two rooms at the >>>>>>> Zico for $50 each. Fifty! Oh, and on top of that he also booked the car >>>>>>> via that and landed us a Ford Mustang. Yeehaw! >>>>>> Mo and I rented a red Mustang convertible, by accident, in western >>>>>> Massachusetts. Horrible car. The top was a nightmare to get up and >>>>>> down, the ersatz 60's round chrome instruments were unreadable, and >>>>>> the turn signal sound was a loud, poorly synthesized fake of an old >>>>>> fashioned thermal plink-plonk thing. It did look sporty. >>>>>> >>>>> Ours was actually really cool. The 60's chrome instruments are still >>>>> there but with large numbers and very readable. The car had mood >>>>> lighting and you could change the color. Heck, even the pedal area was >>>>> lit for whatever reason. The turn signal sounded like a real relay, or >>>>> maybe I fell for an improved synthesized plink-plonk :-) >>>>> >>>>> It did have lots of gusto. However, it is definitely a car for no more >>>>> than two occupants, the rear bench space is pathetic and we did not have >>>>> a convertible. >>>> Hey, here it is: >>>> >>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Mustang.jpg >>>> >>> Send it to my wife. She wants one just like that. Well, a charcoal interior >>> and top would be better. >> No, get her a *real* car >> >> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/A3a.jpg >> >> 4wd, 150+ MPH, room in the back for the dog, and just as red. > > I'll get her what she wants. It *won't* be an Audi. > How about a Dodge Challenger, as long as they can be had with a HEMI? -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Thompson on 28 Jul 2010 20:43 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:39:29 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:24:29 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:39:23 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> [snip] >>>>> This ought to be _the_ real car, and I believe they make or plan to make >>>>> an electric one: >>>>> >>>>> http://www.examiner.com/x-29213-Honda-and-Acura-Examiner~y2010m3d15-The-upcoming-Mercedes-AMG-SLS-GullWing-Coupe-is-a-unique-return-to-form >>>>> >>>>> AFAIK the electric one takes 4sec from 0-60mph while the gasoline >>>>> version is a couple hundred msec zippier. >>>> Actually that's surprising... DC motors have low-speed torque out the >>>> kazoo. >>>> >>>> As electric vehicles get tweaked-up I expect them to beat >>>> gasoline-powered... at least off-the-line. >>>> >>> The torque is just the problem. AFAIK some electric vehicles had to be >>> throttled down a bit. Even the Tesla supposedly "ate" transmissions >>> early on. >>> >>> I guess delivering the juice to the motor also has its limits. >>> >>> >>>> I don't know if any of you recognize the name, Glen Madland? He >>>> founded ICE (Integrated Circuit Engineering) along with Howard Dicken. >>>> I was the ghost writer of all the training courses (at night, daytime >>>> at Moto). >>>> >>>> Glen and his son used to make dragsters using around 100V worth of >>>> lead acid and starter motors ;-) >>>> >>>> So fast off-the-line they had to use helmet straps to prevent broken >>>> necks ;-) >>>> >>> Even the builders of electric vehicles aren't immune to the acceleration >>> surprise, see 2nd half: >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9o15EALghp0 >> >> Glen and son replaced starter motors after each "sprint" :-) >> > >What for is a starter motor in an electric vehicle? Or did they use >those as the main motor? Main motor :-) They even built an Audi killer... one motor on each wheel :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Jim Thompson on 28 Jul 2010 20:51 On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:40:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: [snip extraneous and useless input] >> > >How about a Dodge Challenger, as long as they can be had with a HEMI? Dodge Trucks can get me salivating. Once-upon-a-time, I rented a Ford 11-passenger van to move Girl Scouts to camp. One of the (female) parents came separately in a Dodge Ram pick 'em up truck. Because of a forest fire advisory, it was decided to leave the van at the camp (for maximum evacuation capability), and I'd drive the Dodge Ram back to Phoenix and return 3-days later. Wow! Drives comfortably like my Q45 but with maybe 50% more power! Drool :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: krw on 28 Jul 2010 20:51
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 17:40:35 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 16:14:54 -0700, John Larkin >> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:15:18 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz" >>> <krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 19:55:05 -0700, John Larkin >>>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:46:32 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> John Larkin wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:39:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jim Thompson wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:09:02 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> [...] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>>>>>>>>>>>> >from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). >>>>>>>>>>>> In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >>>>>>>>>>>> as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >>>>>>>>>>>> receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >>>>>>>>>>>> disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >>>>>>>>>>>> it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) >>>>>>>>>>> Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a >>>>>>>>>>> web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or >>>>>>>>>>> "antiquing", either. ;-) >>>>>>>>>> It depends. Last week I stayed in a hotel in Mountain View where faux >>>>>>>>>> painting was done so well that it made you feel like you were in a >>>>>>>>>> mediterranean resort. The weird thing is they combined that with modern >>>>>>>>>> furniture, could have been Art Deco, don't know this stuff, but it >>>>>>>>>> looked really cool. Great place, and one of the best (free) breakfasts I >>>>>>>>>> ever had. It's this one: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> http://www.hotelzico.com/ >>>>>>>>> Nice! How much $ ?? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regular around $130/night. Keep in mind it's right next to a freeway but >>>>>>>> that didn't bother me. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The client engineer I traveled with has this habit of booking everything >>>>>>>> last minute on hotwire.com. You select how many stars and click on >>>>>>>> "book", without knowing which hotel and exactly where. Once the bid is >>>>>>>> booked you are told hotel and location. This got us two rooms at the >>>>>>>> Zico for $50 each. Fifty! Oh, and on top of that he also booked the car >>>>>>>> via that and landed us a Ford Mustang. Yeehaw! >>>>>>> Mo and I rented a red Mustang convertible, by accident, in western >>>>>>> Massachusetts. Horrible car. The top was a nightmare to get up and >>>>>>> down, the ersatz 60's round chrome instruments were unreadable, and >>>>>>> the turn signal sound was a loud, poorly synthesized fake of an old >>>>>>> fashioned thermal plink-plonk thing. It did look sporty. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Ours was actually really cool. The 60's chrome instruments are still >>>>>> there but with large numbers and very readable. The car had mood >>>>>> lighting and you could change the color. Heck, even the pedal area was >>>>>> lit for whatever reason. The turn signal sounded like a real relay, or >>>>>> maybe I fell for an improved synthesized plink-plonk :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> It did have lots of gusto. However, it is definitely a car for no more >>>>>> than two occupants, the rear bench space is pathetic and we did not have >>>>>> a convertible. >>>>> Hey, here it is: >>>>> >>>>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/Mustang.jpg >>>>> >>>> Send it to my wife. She wants one just like that. Well, a charcoal interior >>>> and top would be better. >>> No, get her a *real* car >>> >>> ftp://jjlarkin.lmi.net/A3a.jpg >>> >>> 4wd, 150+ MPH, room in the back for the dog, and just as red. >> >> I'll get her what she wants. It *won't* be an Audi. >> > >How about a Dodge Challenger, as long as they can be had with a HEMI? No more Chryslers, either. Gack! We actually were looking at an Audi *many* moons ago, but found their reliability to be really poor and their engineering/marketing suspect, at best. |