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From: krw on 27 Jul 2010 18:33 On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:29:43 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Joel Koltner wrote: >>>>>> "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in >>>>>> message news:lthr4610pin79ldpnflqu3kd23p3g7lqgp(a)4ax.com... >>>>>>> A sheet of kiss-cut peel-off vinyl letters from Flax, the nearby art >>>>>>> supply store. They'll eventually rub off, so I'll turn it over to >>>>>>> testing and let them pretty it up. >>>>>> If you spray some clear acrylic over it it'll last for years... that's >>>>>> what we did back at university, and there was some really nicely done >>>>>> equipment there that was probably well over a decade old, holding up >>>>>> well. (...although there were plenty of hacked-up boxes with Sharpie >>>>>> marker lettering on them too...) >>>>>> >>>>> That's what I did as a kid, for my home-made ham radio gear. However, I >>>>> found it would only hold up to daily abuse if the aluminim was brushed a >>>>> bit and usually I also heated it before spraying, to the point where the >>>>> lettering just barely did not begin to shrivel. On non-brushed anodized >>>>> aluminum it all flaked off in due course. The lettering I used was from >>>>> a company called "Letra-Set", not sure if available in the US. It was >>>>> the professional stuff, otherwise used for shopping displays or >>>>> advertising material. >>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>> >>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>>from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >> >> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). > > >In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or "antiquing", either. ;-)
From: Joerg on 27 Jul 2010 19:09 krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: > >> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: [...] >>>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>> >from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >>> >>> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). >> >> In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >> as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >> wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >> receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >> disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >> it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) > > Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a > web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or > "antiquing", either. ;-) It depends. Last week I stayed in a hotel in Mountain View where faux painting was done so well that it made you feel like you were in a mediterranean resort. The weird thing is they combined that with modern furniture, could have been Art Deco, don't know this stuff, but it looked really cool. Great place, and one of the best (free) breakfasts I ever had. It's this one: http://www.hotelzico.com/ -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: Jim Thompson on 27 Jul 2010 19:25 On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:09:02 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >> >>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: > >[...] > >>>>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>>>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>>> >from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >>>> >>>> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). >>> >>> In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >>> as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >>> wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >>> receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >>> disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >>> it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) >> >> Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a >> web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or >> "antiquing", either. ;-) > > >It depends. Last week I stayed in a hotel in Mountain View where faux >painting was done so well that it made you feel like you were in a >mediterranean resort. The weird thing is they combined that with modern >furniture, could have been Art Deco, don't know this stuff, but it >looked really cool. Great place, and one of the best (free) breakfasts I >ever had. It's this one: > >http://www.hotelzico.com/ Nice! How much $ ?? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | Spice is like a sports car... Performance only as good as the person behind the wheel.
From: Joerg on 27 Jul 2010 19:39 Jim Thompson wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:09:02 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> > wrote: > >> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >> [...] >> >>>>>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>>>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>>>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>>>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>>>>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>>>> >from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >>>>> >>>>> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). >>>> In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >>>> as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >>>> wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >>>> receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >>>> disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >>>> it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) >>> Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a >>> web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or >>> "antiquing", either. ;-) >> >> It depends. Last week I stayed in a hotel in Mountain View where faux >> painting was done so well that it made you feel like you were in a >> mediterranean resort. The weird thing is they combined that with modern >> furniture, could have been Art Deco, don't know this stuff, but it >> looked really cool. Great place, and one of the best (free) breakfasts I >> ever had. It's this one: >> >> http://www.hotelzico.com/ > > Nice! How much $ ?? > Regular around $130/night. Keep in mind it's right next to a freeway but that didn't bother me. The client engineer I traveled with has this habit of booking everything last minute on hotwire.com. You select how many stars and click on "book", without knowing which hotel and exactly where. Once the bid is booked you are told hotel and location. This got us two rooms at the Zico for $50 each. Fifty! Oh, and on top of that he also booked the car via that and landed us a Ford Mustang. Yeehaw! -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
From: John Larkin on 27 Jul 2010 20:25
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:39:39 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >Jim Thompson wrote: >> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:09:02 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> >> wrote: >> >>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:26:13 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:33:48 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz wrote: >>> [...] >>> >>>>>>>> Never had trouble with anodizing flaking off. Maybe you got E. German >>>>>>>> aluminum. ;-) I think I still have my transmitter and last time I checked >>>>>>>> (when we moved - '08) the panel was still in good shape. I used Letra-Set on >>>>>>>> that, too, with DataKote (?) sprayed over it. I built the transmitter in '66. >>>>>>> It wasn't the anodizing that flaked off but the spray coating lifting >>>>>> >from the anodized surface. Worst case where a letter or number was. >>>>>> >>>>>> Never had that problem with DataKote, unless it was damaged (scratched). >>>>> In Europe there was no DataKote, and I think it's been discontinued here >>>>> as well. So I had to make do with whatever was in the budget. And that >>>>> wasn't always much. I remember that I applied the clear coat on my regen >>>>> receiver from a bottle, using a brush. Afterwards I was a bit >>>>> disappointed but got used to the uneven look, actually started liking >>>>> it. Nowadays it's all the rage and called faux painting :-) >>>> Apparently it has, recently. I've seen it in the last ten years, or so, but a >>>> web search brings up nothing. I'm not much for faux painting, "woodtone", or >>>> "antiquing", either. ;-) >>> >>> It depends. Last week I stayed in a hotel in Mountain View where faux >>> painting was done so well that it made you feel like you were in a >>> mediterranean resort. The weird thing is they combined that with modern >>> furniture, could have been Art Deco, don't know this stuff, but it >>> looked really cool. Great place, and one of the best (free) breakfasts I >>> ever had. It's this one: >>> >>> http://www.hotelzico.com/ >> >> Nice! How much $ ?? >> > >Regular around $130/night. Keep in mind it's right next to a freeway but >that didn't bother me. > >The client engineer I traveled with has this habit of booking everything >last minute on hotwire.com. You select how many stars and click on >"book", without knowing which hotel and exactly where. Once the bid is >booked you are told hotel and location. This got us two rooms at the >Zico for $50 each. Fifty! Oh, and on top of that he also booked the car >via that and landed us a Ford Mustang. Yeehaw! Mo and I rented a red Mustang convertible, by accident, in western Massachusetts. Horrible car. The top was a nightmare to get up and down, the ersatz 60's round chrome instruments were unreadable, and the turn signal sound was a loud, poorly synthesized fake of an old fashioned thermal plink-plonk thing. It did look sporty. John |