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From: Mike Jones on 20 May 2010 19:29 Responding to jens: > On 05/20/2010 02:10 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >> >> Ok, here we go... >> >> Insert "Side of the Dark Moon" original CD >> >> #> cdparanoia -d /dev/cdrom 1- data.wav #> cdrdao read-toc --device >> /dev/cdrom data.toc >> >> Switch disks (fresh CD-RW) >> >> #> cdrdao write --device /dev/cdrom data.toc >> >> Wuhoo! A clone CD! >> >> Testing... >> >> Extra gaps in Audacious, shorter gaps with mplayer, gaps in Xine. >> >> D'OH! >> >> >> Just the same results as with... >> >> #> cdrdao copy --source-device /dev/cd2 --device /dev/cd1 >> >> ...which 'man cdrdao' insists makes a clone copy, but doesn't. >> >> >> I think its time to do this on another machine, just to be sure this >> isn't something barfed up on this one. >> >> > Thanks for trying it out. > > I happen to own Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. I just created a copy > of the original CD using the commands I recommended, using my 5 year old > Think Pad R51 laptop. Put the copy in my 20 year old Sony CD player: no > gap between song 1 and 2. > > Maybe its your hardware, maybe Audacious / mplayer are more picky than > my CD player, I don't know. If you'd like me to try something with > mplayer and my burned copy, let me know. > > Jens Well, I tried some of the suggestions so far on another machine, and got the same problems. Curious thing was, I got shorter gaps using Xine over Audacious. Something SNAFU this way glitches, methinks. Fresh install going on a spare partition. Will test on that next. Oh, and you'll need a copy of Flink Poyd's "Side of the Dark Moon" ok? ;) Hmmm. Memory surfaces... Play 'The Specials's "Ghost Town"' in reverse. %| -- *=( http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/ *=( For all your UK news needs.
From: Grant on 20 May 2010 21:26 On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:29:49 +0000 (UTC), Mike Jones <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote: >Responding to jens: > >> On 05/20/2010 02:10 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >>> >>> Ok, here we go... >>> >>> Insert "Side of the Dark Moon" original CD >>> >>> #> cdparanoia -d /dev/cdrom 1- data.wav #> cdrdao read-toc --device >>> /dev/cdrom data.toc >>> >>> Switch disks (fresh CD-RW) >>> >>> #> cdrdao write --device /dev/cdrom data.toc >>> >>> Wuhoo! A clone CD! >>> >>> Testing... >>> >>> Extra gaps in Audacious, shorter gaps with mplayer, gaps in Xine. >>> >>> D'OH! >>> >>> >>> Just the same results as with... >>> >>> #> cdrdao copy --source-device /dev/cd2 --device /dev/cd1 >>> >>> ...which 'man cdrdao' insists makes a clone copy, but doesn't. >>> >>> >>> I think its time to do this on another machine, just to be sure this >>> isn't something barfed up on this one. >>> >>> >> Thanks for trying it out. >> >> I happen to own Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. I just created a copy >> of the original CD using the commands I recommended, using my 5 year old >> Think Pad R51 laptop. Put the copy in my 20 year old Sony CD player: no >> gap between song 1 and 2. >> >> Maybe its your hardware, maybe Audacious / mplayer are more picky than >> my CD player, I don't know. If you'd like me to try something with >> mplayer and my burned copy, let me know. >> >> Jens > > >Well, I tried some of the suggestions so far on another machine, and got >the same problems. Curious thing was, I got shorter gaps using Xine over >Audacious. > >Something SNAFU this way glitches, methinks. > >Fresh install going on a spare partition. Will test on that next. > >Oh, and you'll need a copy of Flink Poyd's "Side of the Dark Moon" ok? ;) > >Hmmm. Memory surfaces... Play 'The Specials's "Ghost Town"' in reverse. %| Way back when I ripped my CDs to files, I used to rip the CD in one hit, one audio track, to preserve music like Pink Floyd and others that have their 'tracks' merge from one to another. Never any gaps :) Also found cdparanoia can wear out / break CD drives if you have it set to be too aggressive on data recovery -- that flutterby algorithm seems to wreak havoc on the CD head servo. Grant. -- http://bugs.id.au/
From: Mike Jones on 21 May 2010 06:06 Responding to Grant: > On Thu, 20 May 2010 23:29:49 +0000 (UTC), Mike Jones > <luck(a)dasteem.invalid> wrote: > >>Responding to jens: >> >>> On 05/20/2010 02:10 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, here we go... >>>> >>>> Insert "Side of the Dark Moon" original CD >>>> >>>> #> cdparanoia -d /dev/cdrom 1- data.wav #> cdrdao read-toc --device >>>> /dev/cdrom data.toc >>>> >>>> Switch disks (fresh CD-RW) >>>> >>>> #> cdrdao write --device /dev/cdrom data.toc >>>> >>>> Wuhoo! A clone CD! >>>> >>>> Testing... >>>> >>>> Extra gaps in Audacious, shorter gaps with mplayer, gaps in Xine. >>>> >>>> D'OH! >>>> >>>> >>>> Just the same results as with... >>>> >>>> #> cdrdao copy --source-device /dev/cd2 --device /dev/cd1 >>>> >>>> ...which 'man cdrdao' insists makes a clone copy, but doesn't. >>>> >>>> >>>> I think its time to do this on another machine, just to be sure this >>>> isn't something barfed up on this one. >>>> >>>> >>> Thanks for trying it out. >>> >>> I happen to own Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. I just created a >>> copy of the original CD using the commands I recommended, using my 5 >>> year old Think Pad R51 laptop. Put the copy in my 20 year old Sony CD >>> player: no gap between song 1 and 2. >>> >>> Maybe its your hardware, maybe Audacious / mplayer are more picky than >>> my CD player, I don't know. If you'd like me to try something with >>> mplayer and my burned copy, let me know. >>> >>> Jens >> >> >>Well, I tried some of the suggestions so far on another machine, and got >>the same problems. Curious thing was, I got shorter gaps using Xine over >>Audacious. >> >>Something SNAFU this way glitches, methinks. >> >>Fresh install going on a spare partition. Will test on that next. >> >>Oh, and you'll need a copy of Flink Poyd's "Side of the Dark Moon" ok? >>;) >> >>Hmmm. Memory surfaces... Play 'The Specials's "Ghost Town"' in reverse. >>%| > > Way back when I ripped my CDs to files, I used to rip the CD in one hit, > one audio track, to preserve music like Pink Floyd and others that have > their 'tracks' merge from one to another. Never any gaps :) I'm thinking this is probably the bomb-proof, though sub-optimal route. > Also found cdparanoia can wear out / break CD drives if you have it set > to be too aggressive on data recovery -- that flutterby algorithm seems > to wreak havoc on the CD head servo. Ah. A heads-up. cheers! -- *=( http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/ *=( For all your UK news needs.
From: jens on 21 May 2010 06:17 On 05/21/2010 01:29 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > Responding to jens: > >> On 05/20/2010 02:10 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >>> >>> Ok, here we go... >>> >>> Insert "Side of the Dark Moon" original CD >>> >>> #> cdparanoia -d /dev/cdrom 1- data.wav #> cdrdao read-toc --device >>> /dev/cdrom data.toc >>> >>> Switch disks (fresh CD-RW) >>> >>> #> cdrdao write --device /dev/cdrom data.toc >>> >>> Wuhoo! A clone CD! >>> >>> Testing... >>> >>> Extra gaps in Audacious, shorter gaps with mplayer, gaps in Xine. >>> >> Thanks for trying it out. >> >> I happen to own Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. I just created a copy >> of the original CD using the commands I recommended, using my 5 year old >> Think Pad R51 laptop. Put the copy in my 20 year old Sony CD player: no >> gap between song 1 and 2. >> >> Maybe its your hardware, maybe Audacious / mplayer are more picky than >> my CD player, I don't know. If you'd like me to try something with >> mplayer and my burned copy, let me know. >> >> Jens > > > Well, I tried some of the suggestions so far on another machine, and got > the same problems. Curious thing was, I got shorter gaps using Xine over > Audacious. > What happens when you use cdda-player to play your copy? Maybe it's a bug in Xine Audacious that's biting you; cdda-player plays my copy just fine. Jens
From: Mike Jones on 21 May 2010 10:42
Responding to jens: > On 05/21/2010 01:29 AM, Mike Jones wrote: >> Responding to jens: >> >>> On 05/20/2010 02:10 PM, Mike Jones wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok, here we go... >>>> >>>> Insert "Side of the Dark Moon" original CD >>>> >>>> #> cdparanoia -d /dev/cdrom 1- data.wav #> cdrdao read-toc --device >>>> /dev/cdrom data.toc >>>> >>>> Switch disks (fresh CD-RW) >>>> >>>> #> cdrdao write --device /dev/cdrom data.toc >>>> >>>> Wuhoo! A clone CD! >>>> >>>> Testing... >>>> >>>> Extra gaps in Audacious, shorter gaps with mplayer, gaps in Xine. >>>> >>> Thanks for trying it out. >>> >>> I happen to own Pink Floyd, Dark Side of the Moon. I just created a >>> copy of the original CD using the commands I recommended, using my 5 >>> year old Think Pad R51 laptop. Put the copy in my 20 year old Sony CD >>> player: no gap between song 1 and 2. >>> >>> Maybe its your hardware, maybe Audacious / mplayer are more picky than >>> my CD player, I don't know. If you'd like me to try something with >>> mplayer and my burned copy, let me know. >>> >>> Jens >> >> >> Well, I tried some of the suggestions so far on another machine, and >> got the same problems. Curious thing was, I got shorter gaps using Xine >> over Audacious. >> >> > What happens when you use cdda-player to play your copy? Maybe it's a > bug in Xine Audacious that's biting you; cdda-player plays my copy just > fine. > > Jens As I've mentioned elsewhere, the original CD's play fine. Something is not doing a clone, its doing a reset. -- *=( http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/ *=( For all your UK news needs. |