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From: Kevin Nathan on 24 Dec 2009 00:31 On Wed, 23 Dec 2009 18:08:27 +0000 David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote: >So, basically, it is extremely unlikely that there will be a >remastered version of 11.2 released since what was released works >fine[0]. > > >[0] Well, it does here, with KDE4.3.4 from the build service repos. It >even worked fine with the supplied KDE4.3.1, despite there being lots >of complaints about KDE4 in general[1]. > I should mention that my "A Contrarian View of KDE4" msg in this news group was based on 4.3.1 which I am still using; probably won't move to WindowMaker for a few weeks yet, to give KDE a fair amount of time. Even with 4.3.1, I haven't seen any major bugs and can't think of any minor ones right now. I have a few minor 'irritants' but those are from a purely subjective viewpoint -- and mostly because it is a little different from that with which I am familiar. I might try to see if 4.3.4 erases any of those minor irritants... :-) >[1] That should stir up at least a little bit of a "KDE4 is broken" >thread :-) > It sure isn't broken from my POV and actually has some very nice features! :-) -- Kevin Nathan (Arizona, USA) Linux Potpourri and a.o.l.s. FAQ -- (temporarily offline) Open standards. Open source. Open minds. The command line is the front line. Linux 2.6.31.5-0.1-default 22:22pm up 6 days 4:08, 19 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.01
From: EOS on 24 Dec 2009 04:07 Chris Cox wrote: > Oh... and let me add that KDE4 is broken... > > (this useless one liner brought to you by Microsofties: We're > all PC's, we just don't know what to do with them.) strange i running beta 2 of KDE 4.4 very well ............ openSUSE offers other than KDE 4.x ;-) and what do you mean with "broken" ? -- EOS www.photo-memories.be Running KDE 4.4 Beta2 / openSUSE 11.2
From: Kevin Miller on 24 Dec 2009 12:35 Kevin Nathan wrote: > > I should mention that my "A Contrarian View of KDE4" msg in this news > group was based on 4.3.1 which I am still using; probably won't move to > WindowMaker for a few weeks yet, to give KDE a fair amount of time. > Even with 4.3.1, I haven't seen any major bugs and can't think of any > minor ones right now. I have a few minor 'irritants' but those are from > a purely subjective viewpoint -- and mostly because it is a little > different from that with which I am familiar. I might try to see if > 4.3.4 erases any of those minor irritants... :-) It's kind of a funny beast. I was always a KDE 3.5 user. Tried gnome a time or two and kind of like the cartoonish look but never quite got used to the functional aspects. When 11.0 (I thin it was .0 anyway) came out I gave KDE4 a try which lasted about 3 days. It was so screwed up I started thinking maybe gnome or some other desktop might be in my future after all. They seem to have it pretty stabilized now though and I like the look. Still vacillate between the normal and the slab menu. I sure wish they hadn't taken the search bar out of the normal menu! I hate to say it in public, but I actually prefer the menus in Windows 7 which I use at work. Sort of the best of both traditional menus and the slab menu. I've found that I can usually get similar functionality to what I had in 3.5 if I poke around enough. The one thing I *really* miss is 'Preview in embedded Text Editor'. Sigh. > It sure isn't broken from my POV and actually has some very nice > features! :-) It does. Many I'm still discovering, and I'm sure there are more gems yet to be discovered. Biggest thing is probably the continued development of applets or whatever they call them. I figure those that say it's broken are using an earlier version. Now if you want to talk 'broken' take a look a OS X. Sheesh. :-) Drives me nuts every time I have to help my Dad on his Mac. What was Apple thinking? Merry Christmas... ....Kevin -- Kevin Miller Juneau, Alaska http://www.alaska.net/~atftb In a recent poll, seven out of ten hard drives preferred Linux.
From: Vahis on 24 Dec 2009 13:21 On 2009-12-24, Kevin Miller <atftb2(a)alaska.net> wrote: > Kevin Nathan wrote: <snip> > > I've found that I can usually get similar functionality to what I had in > 3.5 if I poke around enough. The one thing I *really* miss is 'Preview > in embedded Text Editor'. Sigh. Don't. It's there. Behind the right hand side mouse ear. Vahis -- "Sunrise 9:28am (EET), sunset 3:12pm (EET) at Espoo, Finland (5:43 hours daylight)" http://waxborg.servepics.com Linux 2.6.25.20-0.5-default #1 SMP 2009-08-14 01:48:11 +0200 x86_64 8:17pm up 55 days 1:18, 14 users, load average: 0.25, 0.37, 0.41
From: David Bolt on 24 Dec 2009 13:51
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 17:35, while playing with a tin of spray paint, Kevin Miller painted this mural: > It's kind of a funny beast. I was always a KDE 3.5 user. As was I, although I do occasionally use other desktops. > Tried gnome a > time or two and kind of like the cartoonish look but never quite got > used to the functional aspects. Every time I've looked at Gnome, I've been struck by how plain it is, and how difficult it is to reconfigure to how I like it. Eventually, I gave up trying and have ignored it. > When 11.0 (I thin it was .0 anyway) > came out I gave KDE4 a try which lasted about 3 days. I don't think it even lasted 3 hours when I tried it initially. Now I'm very happy with it and, although I still miss some features from 3.5, the number of applications I use that are based upon it have dwindled. The main application I use that requires KDE3 is amarok, and that's because I don't like the look of the new version. If they had a way to wrap amarok 2 in the older skin, I would possibly not need any KDE3 packages installed. > They seem to have it pretty stabilized now though and I like the look. I do, for the most part. > Still vacillate between the normal and the slab menu. This is something I don't do. I have a major dislike for the kickoff menu style and, as soon as possible, change it back to the classic menu. > I sure wish they > hadn't taken the search bar out of the normal menu! You mean the find files/folders? That's still there in my menu. > I've found that I can usually get similar functionality to what I had in > 3.5 if I poke around enough. The one thing I *really* miss is 'Preview > in embedded Text Editor'. Sigh. Are you using Dolphin or Konqueror as your file manager? I'm going to guess you're using Dolphin because Konqueror still has the "Preview in embedded text editor" in the right-click menu although the default is to open (most) files in kwrite. Some files it wants to open in Emacs, but that's easily cured. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net OGR-NG @ ~100Mnodes RC5-72 @ ~1Mkeys/s openSUSE 11.0 32b | | openSUSE 11.2 32b | openSUSE 11.0 64b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11 |