From: Kevin Nathan on
On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:51:50 +0000
David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:

>> I sure wish they
>> hadn't taken the search bar out of the normal menu!
>
>You mean the find files/folders? That's still there in my menu.
>

I *think* he means the search box, where you can find the program by
name if you don't know where it is in the menu system. One of the
reasons why I use the Kickoff menu mostly -- but I do like both menu
styles, each with its own strengths and weaknesses.


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From: Chris Cox on
EOS wrote:
> Chris Cox wrote:
>
>> Oh... and let me add that KDE4 is broken...
>>
>> (this useless one liner brought to you by Microsofties: We're
>> all PC's, we just don't know what to do with them.)
>
> strange i running beta 2 of KDE 4.4 very well ............
>
> openSUSE offers other than KDE 4.x ;-)
> and what do you mean with "broken" ?

You'll have to ask the Microsofties....

From: Kevin Miller on
Kevin Nathan wrote:
> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:51:50 +0000
> David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:
>
>>> I sure wish they
>>> hadn't taken the search bar out of the normal menu!
>> You mean the find files/folders? That's still there in my menu.
>>
>
> I *think* he means the search box, where you can find the program by
> name if you don't know where it is in the menu system. One of the
> reasons why I use the Kickoff menu mostly -- but I do like both menu
> styles, each with its own strengths and weaknesses.

Exactly. *SUSE used to always have a nice search box in the stock KDE
3.5 style menu where you entered the file name and all menu options that
weren't reliant went gray, and the matches remained active. A friend
once found were to do that in Debian a couple years ago but neither of
us have been able to find it since. It seems to have been a SUSEism.
And now it's gone in the kickoff menu but still present in the slab
menu. Maybe that's their way of 'encouraging' more acceptance of the
slab menu. Kind of a step backwards if you ask me.

Maybe I'll file a bug report and ask the developers to put it back in.
They were quite amenable to retrofitting the YaST Software Management
with the option to return to add more software instead of dropping one
back in YaST. Now if only the T-Bird folks would let us once again
collapse the big blob of wasted space in the reading pane instead of
expanding the headers. Sigh. But one battle at a time.

Have a great Christmas all..

....Kevin
--
Kevin Miller
Juneau, Alaska
http://www.alaska.net/~atftb
In a recent poll, seven out of ten hard drives preferred Linux.
From: David Bolt on
On Thursday 24 Dec 2009 21:16, while playing with a tin of spray paint,
Kevin Nathan painted this mural:

> On Thu, 24 Dec 2009 18:51:50 +0000
> David Bolt <blacklist-me(a)davjam.org> wrote:

>>You mean the find files/folders? That's still there in my menu.
>>
>
> I *think* he means the search box, where you can find the program by
> name if you don't know where it is in the menu system.

Ah, it it is, then the equivalent to that would be the "Run command".
On mine, it opens a little dialogue box for you to type in the name,
giving possible options once you've entered a few letters. Or it could
be that it knows the commands I'm looking for by matching them to those
it's stored in its command history.

> One of the
> reasons why I use the Kickoff menu mostly -- but I do like both menu
> styles, each with its own strengths and weaknesses.

I think it's too cumbersome, takes too much time to get to an
application somewhere in the menu structure, and it uses up too much
screen space for my liking. However, I can understand that a lot, and
maybe even a majority, of people that use KDE like that menu style.
Then again, it could be that a lot of those that use the kickoff style
don't know how to switch to the classic style, and just haven't asked.


Regards,
David Bolt

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From: EOS on
Kevin Miller wrote:

> I've found that I can usually get similar functionality to what I had in
> 3.5 if I poke around enough. The one thing I really miss is 'Preview
> in embedded Text Editor'. Sigh.

No problem @ all ;-)
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