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From: Phil Hobbs on 4 Jun 2010 16:30 On 6/3/2010 11:42 PM, Charlie E. wrote: > On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:16:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> "Charlie E." wrote: >>> >>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:03:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> "Charlie E." wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Fog can be a trick! When I designed the 91 Express Lanes, I built a >>>>> vehicle sensor that was basically two laser light curtains abount a >>>>> foot apart. I designed it to only distinguish vehicles going in the >>>>> proper direction. What I hadn't anticipated was fog. I heard that, >>>>> one day a few months after I was let go, they had thick fog move >>>>> through the pass, and recorded hundreds of phantom cars in the toll >>>>> lanes! >>>> >>>> >>>> They are too stupid to close toll roads in heavy fog? >>> >>> Ubetcha! This is in the middle of a freeway, and it only closes for >>> maintanance... >> >> >> I've seen fog so thick that you couldn't see the end of the hood on >> your vehicle, yet idiots were rolling by at high speed. Even worse is >> when it's mixed with heavy smoke from controlled burns. > > Well, I used to drive 'Rim of the World Drive' down from Crestline to > San Berdoo at night, in dense fog, at not much less than normal speed. > You just 'know' where the turns are... > > Except, of course, when there are rocks in the fog... ;-) > > Charlie In my misspent youth, there was a time when I used to drive from Vancouver to Seattle late at night about once a week. One night at about 1 AM, I was driving way too fast on I-5 in moderate amounts of fog, just after a rain, when I caught a glint of something shiny where nothing should have been. Something in my brain stem cranked the wheel hard to the left, sending me towards the median more or less sideways at about 65 mph. As I slid across the shoulder, I passed within 8 or 10 feet of two black horses trotting down the middle of the Interstate. Took me a few minutes to catch my breath after that one. Cheers Phil Hobbs -- Dr Philip C D Hobbs Principal ElectroOptical Innovations 55 Orchard Rd Briarcliff Manor NY 10510 845-480-2058 hobbs at electrooptical dot net http://electrooptical.net
From: John Larkin on 4 Jun 2010 17:05 On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:30:59 -0400, Phil Hobbs <pcdhSpamMeSenseless(a)electrooptical.net> wrote: >On 6/3/2010 11:42 PM, Charlie E. wrote: >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:16:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> "Charlie E." wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:03:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >>>> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Charlie E." wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Fog can be a trick! When I designed the 91 Express Lanes, I built a >>>>>> vehicle sensor that was basically two laser light curtains abount a >>>>>> foot apart. I designed it to only distinguish vehicles going in the >>>>>> proper direction. What I hadn't anticipated was fog. I heard that, >>>>>> one day a few months after I was let go, they had thick fog move >>>>>> through the pass, and recorded hundreds of phantom cars in the toll >>>>>> lanes! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They are too stupid to close toll roads in heavy fog? >>>> >>>> Ubetcha! This is in the middle of a freeway, and it only closes for >>>> maintanance... >>> >>> >>> I've seen fog so thick that you couldn't see the end of the hood on >>> your vehicle, yet idiots were rolling by at high speed. Even worse is >>> when it's mixed with heavy smoke from controlled burns. >> >> Well, I used to drive 'Rim of the World Drive' down from Crestline to >> San Berdoo at night, in dense fog, at not much less than normal speed. >> You just 'know' where the turns are... >> >> Except, of course, when there are rocks in the fog... ;-) >> >> Charlie > >In my misspent youth, there was a time when I used to drive from >Vancouver to Seattle late at night about once a week. One night at >about 1 AM, I was driving way too fast on I-5 in moderate amounts of >fog, just after a rain, when I caught a glint of something shiny where >nothing should have been. Something in my brain stem cranked the wheel >hard to the left, sending me towards the median more or less sideways at >about 65 mph. As I slid across the shoulder, I passed within 8 or 10 >feet of two black horses trotting down the middle of the Interstate. > >Took me a few minutes to catch my breath after that one. > >Cheers > >Phil Hobbs We have a couple of places here, like stretches of I5, where dense fog can drift over the freeway. So there will be, say, 100 drivers at speed, faced with the decision... Keep going and rear-end a pileup Stop, get rear-ended, start a pileup Pull over to the shoulder and hope nobody else thought of that before you, or thinks of that after you. John
From: Michael A. Terrell on 4 Jun 2010 17:35 Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:40:09 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >"Charlie E." wrote: > >> > >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:16:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >"Charlie E." wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:03:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >"Charlie E." wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Fog can be a trick! When I designed the 91 Express Lanes, I built a > >> >> >> vehicle sensor that was basically two laser light curtains abount a > >> >> >> foot apart. I designed it to only distinguish vehicles going in the > >> >> >> proper direction. What I hadn't anticipated was fog. I heard that, > >> >> >> one day a few months after I was let go, they had thick fog move > >> >> >> through the pass, and recorded hundreds of phantom cars in the toll > >> >> >> lanes! > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > They are too stupid to close toll roads in heavy fog? > >> >> > >> >> Ubetcha! This is in the middle of a freeway, and it only closes for > >> >> maintanance... > >> > > >> > > >> > I've seen fog so thick that you couldn't see the end of the hood on > >> >your vehicle, yet idiots were rolling by at high speed. Even worse is > >> >when it's mixed with heavy smoke from controlled burns. > >> > >> Well, I used to drive 'Rim of the World Drive' down from Crestline to > >> San Berdoo at night, in dense fog, at not much less than normal speed. > >> You just 'know' where the turns are... > >> > >> Except, of course, when there are rocks in the fog... ;-) > > > > > > I was thinking of I-75 between Cincinnati & Dayton Ohio. That was > >the area with the highest Interstate traffic when I lived near there. > >Lots of wrecks in heavy fog. Even worse, if the air was drifting in the > >wrong direction you could smell the Purina pet food plant. It was worse > >than a dead body. :( > > In my walk from our Cambridge apartment to MIT, I passed a rendering > plant _and_ a chocolate factory. Some days the blended stench was so > bad I had to run thru that area to avoid the ultimate up-chuck ;-) You couldn't run from that Purina stench. It took 15 minutes to drive threough it, on the Interstate. Of course, Cincinnati was called Porkopolis because of all the pigs that were slaughtered & processed there. BTW, 'alwaysdim' is from Cincinnati. http://www.wisegeek.com/why-was-cincinnati-once-known-as-porkopolis.htm -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.
From: Jim Thompson on 4 Jun 2010 17:42 On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:35:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >Jim Thompson wrote: >> >> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:40:09 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> > >> >"Charlie E." wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:16:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >"Charlie E." wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:03:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" >> >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >"Charlie E." wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Fog can be a trick! When I designed the 91 Express Lanes, I built a >> >> >> >> vehicle sensor that was basically two laser light curtains abount a >> >> >> >> foot apart. I designed it to only distinguish vehicles going in the >> >> >> >> proper direction. What I hadn't anticipated was fog. I heard that, >> >> >> >> one day a few months after I was let go, they had thick fog move >> >> >> >> through the pass, and recorded hundreds of phantom cars in the toll >> >> >> >> lanes! >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > They are too stupid to close toll roads in heavy fog? >> >> >> >> >> >> Ubetcha! This is in the middle of a freeway, and it only closes for >> >> >> maintanance... >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > I've seen fog so thick that you couldn't see the end of the hood on >> >> >your vehicle, yet idiots were rolling by at high speed. Even worse is >> >> >when it's mixed with heavy smoke from controlled burns. >> >> >> >> Well, I used to drive 'Rim of the World Drive' down from Crestline to >> >> San Berdoo at night, in dense fog, at not much less than normal speed. >> >> You just 'know' where the turns are... >> >> >> >> Except, of course, when there are rocks in the fog... ;-) >> > >> > >> > I was thinking of I-75 between Cincinnati & Dayton Ohio. That was >> >the area with the highest Interstate traffic when I lived near there. >> >Lots of wrecks in heavy fog. Even worse, if the air was drifting in the >> >wrong direction you could smell the Purina pet food plant. It was worse >> >than a dead body. :( >> >> In my walk from our Cambridge apartment to MIT, I passed a rendering >> plant _and_ a chocolate factory. Some days the blended stench was so >> bad I had to run thru that area to avoid the ultimate up-chuck ;-) > > > You couldn't run from that Purina stench. It took 15 minutes to >drive threough it, on the Interstate. Of course, Cincinnati was called >Porkopolis because of all the pigs that were slaughtered & processed >there. BTW, 'alwaysdim' is from Cincinnati. > >http://www.wisegeek.com/why-was-cincinnati-once-known-as-porkopolis.htm My sister lives in Cincinnati. I don't recall it smelling. But I do remember having to drive thru this on the NJ Pike... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secaucus,_New_Jersey ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: Michael A. Terrell on 4 Jun 2010 18:54
Jim Thompson wrote: > > On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 17:35:37 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > > > > >Jim Thompson wrote: > >> > >> On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 13:40:09 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> > >> > > >> >"Charlie E." wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 22:16:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> >"Charlie E." wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Thu, 03 Jun 2010 17:03:56 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" > >> >> >> <mike.terrell(a)earthlink.net> wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> >"Charlie E." wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> Fog can be a trick! When I designed the 91 Express Lanes, I built a > >> >> >> >> vehicle sensor that was basically two laser light curtains abount a > >> >> >> >> foot apart. I designed it to only distinguish vehicles going in the > >> >> >> >> proper direction. What I hadn't anticipated was fog. I heard that, > >> >> >> >> one day a few months after I was let go, they had thick fog move > >> >> >> >> through the pass, and recorded hundreds of phantom cars in the toll > >> >> >> >> lanes! > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > They are too stupid to close toll roads in heavy fog? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Ubetcha! This is in the middle of a freeway, and it only closes for > >> >> >> maintanance... > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > I've seen fog so thick that you couldn't see the end of the hood on > >> >> >your vehicle, yet idiots were rolling by at high speed. Even worse is > >> >> >when it's mixed with heavy smoke from controlled burns. > >> >> > >> >> Well, I used to drive 'Rim of the World Drive' down from Crestline to > >> >> San Berdoo at night, in dense fog, at not much less than normal speed. > >> >> You just 'know' where the turns are... > >> >> > >> >> Except, of course, when there are rocks in the fog... ;-) > >> > > >> > > >> > I was thinking of I-75 between Cincinnati & Dayton Ohio. That was > >> >the area with the highest Interstate traffic when I lived near there. > >> >Lots of wrecks in heavy fog. Even worse, if the air was drifting in the > >> >wrong direction you could smell the Purina pet food plant. It was worse > >> >than a dead body. :( > >> > >> In my walk from our Cambridge apartment to MIT, I passed a rendering > >> plant _and_ a chocolate factory. Some days the blended stench was so > >> bad I had to run thru that area to avoid the ultimate up-chuck ;-) > > > > > > You couldn't run from that Purina stench. It took 15 minutes to > >drive threough it, on the Interstate. Of course, Cincinnati was called > >Porkopolis because of all the pigs that were slaughtered & processed > >there. BTW, 'alwaysdim' is from Cincinnati. > > > >http://www.wisegeek.com/why-was-cincinnati-once-known-as-porkopolis.htm > > My sister lives in Cincinnati. I don't recall it smelling. But I do > remember having to drive thru this on the NJ Pike... Cincinnati itself is small. The entire are around it is referred to as 'Greater Cincinnati' I worked on Glendale-Milford road, at the old Cincinnati Electronics plant on second shift. That area had heavy industry in buildings built to supply the troops in W.W. II. The building was built for the air force and leased to Crosley. Later AVCO used it, then C.E. It was owned by Marge Schot, who also owned the Cincinnati Reds. It was foggy most summer nights on the way home, because of the Ohio river. Unless you were in that area around midnight, and had the wind blowing the right way you wouldn't smell it. The fog held the stench close to the ground. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secaucus,_New_Jersey No one should have to drive through New Jersey. That's why I'm glad that I didn't have to spend three years at Ft. Monmoth. The other engineers who did, didn't have one good thing to say about it other than they were glad to finally graduate. :( -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |