From: Jim Thompson on
On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 07:39:55 -0700, Joerg <invalid(a)invalid.invalid>
wrote:

>John Larkin wrote:
[snip]
>
>> The best-quality cars in the world are Japanese, but aren't as fun to
>> drive as German cars.

Neeerp! I had two JPN sport cars a 280Z and a 280ZX... quite fun.

>>
>
>Yup, got tow JPN cars. Reliable but more run-of-the-mills. The Nissan
>ZX'es or a Mitsubishi 3000GT ought to be fun though. Or a Kawasaki :-)

Yep, But now I'm into comfort and luxury _and_ speed :-)

I'm hearing rumors of a 450ZX... that could ring my chime ;-)

>
>
>> And
>>> why are engineers over there complaining that many get kicked out around
>>> age 45 because they are "too old"?
>>
>> That "creates jobs."
>>
>
>Yeah, it does. Over here (seriously).

Virtually all of my customers are in the same age range as my
children... 38 to 48 :-)

...Jim Thompson
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From: dagmargoodboat on
On Jul 6, 10:54 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 07:25:39 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
>
>
> >On Jul 6, 7:37 am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
> >> On Jul 6, 6:53 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> >> > Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>
> >> > So, implicitly, as of 1937 Roosevelt's first and second stimulus
> >> > packages (aka The New Deal) still hadn't worked, right?
>
> >> They had worked, and had gotten unemployment down from 25% to 9%. In
> >> 1937 - in a premature fit of "fiscal responsiblity" the residual
> >> stimulus was stopped - too early - and unemployment went back up to
> >> 17%.
>
> >Nope, but here's a nice picture for you:
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal#Origins
>
> >> > The fact is
> >> > that government has no ability to create jobs.  Not then, not now.
>
> >> Palpable nonsense. Since you acknowledge that it has the ability to
> >> destroy them you should be able to understand that it also has the
> >> capabliity to create them,
>
> >"Ability to destroy" does not imply ability to create.  That a
> >teenager can wreck your car proves he can make them?  That's dumb.
>
> There's the time factor, too: things take a long time to build, but
> they can be destroyed essentially instantly. Jobs, businesses,
> productive infrastructures, even if set free, will take a generation
> to grow back. The US electorate hasn't that sort of patience, so we
> get idiotic macroeconomic things like "stimulus", the equivalent of
> shooting speed into your arm instead of exercizing and eating your
> broccoli.

I've been thinking about this for decades, and six ways from Sunday
for the past year and a half. We *can* fix this, and in less than a
generation. Less than a decade, if we have the will.

Just as long as Obama's assault on our institutions don't stand.
Those cured, the patient will heal herself. It's part of the synergy,
the miracle of our system, of entrepreneurship. We just have to stop
him killing it.

If we don't do that, America's lost, the Founder's experiment in
freedom over. But even then, after Rome came ... Italy. Lovely
ladies & good wine. That ain't *all* bad.

--
Cheers,
James Arthur
From: John Larkin on
On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 09:12:01 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com
wrote:

>On Jul 6, 10:54�am, John Larkin
><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010 07:25:39 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> >On Jul 6, 7:37 am, Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>> >> On Jul 6, 6:53 am, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
>> >> > Bill Sloman <bill.slo...(a)ieee.org> wrote:
>>
>> >> > So, implicitly, as of 1937 Roosevelt's first and second stimulus
>> >> > packages (aka The New Deal) still hadn't worked, right?
>>
>> >> They had worked, and had gotten unemployment down from 25% to 9%. In
>> >> 1937 - in a premature fit of "fiscal responsiblity" the residual
>> >> stimulus was stopped - too early - and unemployment went back up to
>> >> 17%.
>>
>> >Nope, but here's a nice picture for you:
>>
>> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal#Origins
>>
>> >> > The fact is
>> >> > that government has no ability to create jobs. �Not then, not now.
>>
>> >> Palpable nonsense. Since you acknowledge that it has the ability to
>> >> destroy them you should be able to understand that it also has the
>> >> capabliity to create them,
>>
>> >"Ability to destroy" does not imply ability to create. �That a
>> >teenager can wreck your car proves he can make them? �That's dumb.
>>
>> There's the time factor, too: things take a long time to build, but
>> they can be destroyed essentially instantly. Jobs, businesses,
>> productive infrastructures, even if set free, will take a generation
>> to grow back. The US electorate hasn't that sort of patience, so we
>> get idiotic macroeconomic things like "stimulus", the equivalent of
>> shooting speed into your arm instead of exercizing and eating your
>> broccoli.
>
>I've been thinking about this for decades, and six ways from Sunday
>for the past year and a half. We *can* fix this, and in less than a
>generation. Less than a decade, if we have the will.
>
>Just as long as Obama's assault on our institutions don't stand.
>Those cured, the patient will heal herself. It's part of the synergy,
>the miracle of our system, of entrepreneurship. We just have to stop
>him killing it.

The worker-guy jobs are the hardest to rebuild. If we buy most of our
manufactured stuff from China, and use latino immigrants for cheap
off-the-books domestic labor, a lot of American workers won't have
jobs.

To some extent this is the globalization problem. But our tax and
immigration policies just make it worse.

John

From: m II on
dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote:

> If we don't do that, America's lost, the Founder's experiment in
> freedom over. But even then, after Rome came ... Italy. Lovely
> ladies & good wine. That ain't *all* bad.


http://snipurl.com/z2a48




mike
From: Bill Sloman on
On Jul 6, 3:48 pm, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> Bill Sloman wrote:
> > On Jul 6, 3:21 am, Joerg <inva...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
> >> Bill Sloman wrote:
> >>> On Jul 5, 4:28 pm, dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com wrote:
> >>>> On Jul 4, 7:21 pm, John Larkin
> >>>> <jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> >>>>>http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/1f011f36-87ae-11df-9f37-00144feabdc0.html
> >>>>> It appears that the Germans, at least, appreciate where they are on
> >>>>> the Laffer curve.
> >>>>> John
> >>>> "The stronger-than-expected growth and falls in unemployment were
> >>>> making it significantly easier for Germany to reduce its public sector
> >>>> deficit."
> >>>> We'd be bouncing back too but for Obama.  Even flat on its back, our
> >>>> economy would be trying to sit up if Big Bro wasn't busy holding it
> >>>> down.  It was and is weakly trying, but he just won't let it.
> >>> It isn't Obama who shipped great swathes of American manufacturing
> >>> industry off to China and Mexico. Germany is doing well because it
> >>> does manufacturing better than anybody else.
> >> Then why are they producing cars like the VW Sports Wagon in Mexiko?
>
> > Probably because Mexico and the US have signed a free trade agreement.
>
> No, they ship most of them to Europe. These aren't sold in very large
> quantities over here. I believe they are called Golf Kombi in Germany.
>
> >> And
> >> why are engineers over there complaining that many get kicked out around
> >> age 45 because they are "too old"?
>
> > The Dutch disease must be contagious.
>
> It's stupid. At most of my clients the average age of engineers is well
> over 40, for good reasons.

Couldn't agree more, but there's a lot of stupdiity about.

--
Bill Sloman, Nijmegen